1. Standard membersh76
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    07 May '08 15:281 edit
    Originally posted by schakuhr
    [fen]8/6P1/3b4/6P1/1k6/4r3/2B5/1K6[/fen]

    black to move

    this is a pretty lopsided draw too.
    That's 8-5 in points. The one starting this thread is 4-0.

    Still, as someone else posted, I didn't think about the K+ 2 knights vs. king, where there's no forced mate. That's a 6 point advantage with no forced win, so I guess that's the most lopsided draw possible.

    They say it's possible to force mate with a Bishop and a knight vs. a king. I guess it must be, but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to do it.
  2. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    07 May '08 16:56
    Originally posted by schakuhr
    [fen]8/6P1/3b4/6P1/1k6/4r3/2B5/1K6 b[/fen]

    black to move

    this is a pretty lopsided draw too.
    This is a ridiculously lopsided draw:


    White to move
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    07 May '08 17:05
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    This is a ridiculously lopsided draw:

    [fen]bnn3rq/7r/B7/2p5/3p4/p7/kp1Kpppp/b7 b - - 0 1[/fen]
    White to move
    1.B-c4+ K-b1
    2.B-d3+ K-a2
    3.B-c4+ K-b1
    4.B-d3+ K-a2
    5.B-c4+ CLAIM!!!
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    07 May '08 18:02
    Complete Draw as I'm sure everyone else in this thread has said. All white has to do is keep moving back and forth keeping control of the Queening square
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    07 May '08 18:06
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    This is a ridiculously lopsided draw:

    [fen]bnn3rq/7r/B7/2p5/3p4/p7/kp1Kpppp/b7 b - - 0 1[/fen]
    White to move
    What's the idea behind this? To prove that white can draw with king and bishop against a whole set?
  6. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    07 May '08 18:22
    Originally posted by kbaumen
    What's the idea behind this? To prove that white can draw with king and bishop against a whole set?
    It was mainly a joke in response to schakuhr's problem [which depended much more on tactics than general principles] with a pinch of morbid curiousity [what is the maximum material deficit that can yield a drawn position? The only thing I did not do is promote all the pawns to Q.]
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    07 May '08 19:29
    Originally posted by Thomaster
    1.B-c4+ K-b1
    2.B-d3+ K-a2
    3.B-c4+ K-b1
    4.B-d3+ K-a2
    5.B-c4+ CLAIM!!!
    Nice one. 🙂🙄
  8. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    07 May '08 19:29
    And finally,

    ***The most ridiculously lopsided draw possible in the game of chess***


    White to move

    White, materially at a 1 to 103 point disadvantage, escapes with a draw.
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    07 May '08 19:461 edit
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    And finally,

    ***The most ridiculously lopsided draw possible in the game of chess***

    [fen]1r1kb1rq/8/2PK1bqq/8/n4n1q/6q1/5q1q/5qq1 w - - 0 1[/fen]
    White to move

    White, materially at a 1 to 103 point disadvantage, escapes with a draw.
    I wonder what the moves could be... 😉 Unless of course cxb8=N??
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    07 May '08 19:521 edit
    A famous one I think:
    White: Garry Kasparov
    Black: IBM's Deep Blue
    A very instructive endgame to this game.
    1/2-1/2
  11. Standard membersh76
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    08 May '08 14:362 edits
    1. c7+ Kc8 (forced)
    2. cxb8=Q Kxb8 (forced)
    stalemate

    Still, I think the topic of this post was more about material draws, not stalemates or perpetual checks, for which, of course, material disparity is basically irrelevant.
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    08 May '08 18:23
    Originally posted by sh76
    1. c7+ Kc8 (forced)
    2. cxb8=Q Kxb8 (forced)
    stalemate

    Still, I think the topic of this post was more about material draws, not stalemates or perpetual checks, for which, of course, material disparity is basically irrelevant.
    Um, the solution was intended to be obvious. That was the joke. 😉 🙂
  13. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    09 May '08 06:38
    Originally posted by sh76
    1. c7+ Kc8 (forced)
    2. cxb8=Q Kxb8 (forced)
    stalemate

    Still, I think the topic of this post was more about material draws, not stalemates or perpetual checks, for which, of course, material disparity is basically irrelevant.
    Well, if there's anything I hate, it's people who can't stick to the topic. 😛

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    1. Ng3+? Ke1
    draw!
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    09 May '08 10:36
    Originally posted by heinzkat
    [fen]8/8/8/5N2/8/4K3/8/3B1k2 w - -[/fen]

    1. Ng3+? Ke1
    draw!
    One correct solution is : -
    1. Kd2 Kf2 2. Bg4 Kf1 3. Nd6 Kf2 4. Ne4+ Kf1 5. Bh3+ Kg1 6. Ke2 Kh2 7. Bf1 Kg1 8. Ng5 Kh2 9. Kf2 Kh1 10. Bg2+ Kh2
    11. Nf3 mate.
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