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Checkmate not recognized - game id 5000682

Checkmate not recognized - game id 5000682

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Originally posted by DrunkKash
I know that. I'm just saying that black wouldn't be able to offer draw unless it makes a valid move, that's all.

"You must also make a valid move to offer the draw."
In RHP system, that´s right. In OTB games, sometimes, no.

From the book Play Better Chess, Leonard Barden, Octopus Books Ltd., England, 1980.

Knaak-Zilberstein - Tallin, 1979.



The diagram appeared imediately before the suspension, and Zilberstein had to seal his move. He had material advantage with Q+2P x R+B, but white had some possibilities of reaction. Knaak analyzed the position and decided he had good chances of draw the game after 1 ... Kh7 2. Rxb5.
However, he was relieved when Zilberstein (USSR champion) reached Knaak and offered the draw immediately. Knaak accepted. But, then, he discovered that Zilberstein sealed the terribly wrong 1 ... Qd1 ??, after which the white gain with 2. Rxh6+ gxh6 3. Rxb5+ and 4. Rxb1.


In OTB games, many people offer the draw before to make the move. Your answer can be:
a) to accept the draw;
b) to refuse the draw;
c) to oblige the opponent to do the move; in this case, (s)he cannoot to remove the offer.

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Originally posted by Helder Octavio
In RHP system, that´s right. In OTB games, sometimes, no.

From the book [b]Play Better Chess
, Leonard Barden, Octopus Books Ltd., England, 1980.

Knaak-Zilberstein - Tallin, 1979.

[fen]6rk/p5p1/3R3p/1p2R3/2pB4/4P2P/6PK/3q4 b - - - -[/fen]

[i]The diagram appeared imediately before the suspension, and Zilberstein had to seal his move. He ...[text shortened]... raw;
c) to oblige the opponent to do the move; in this case, (s)he cannoot to remove the offer.[/b]
After 7 edits, I saw another mistake...

The Zilberstein´s sealed move was 1. ... Qb1 ??

And one more edit!

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After 7 edits, I saw another mistake...

And one more edit!

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torcedor do Sao Paulo ?

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Originally posted by zintieriv
torcedor do Sao Paulo ?

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Amanhã jantaremos Bisteca de Porco...

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Originally posted by Helder Octavio
Amanhã jantaremos Bisteca de Porco...

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Palmeiras 1 x 1 Portuguesa...

Not bad...

Oh, well... let´s return to chess...

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