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Checkmate with Knight and King only?

Checkmate with Knight and King only?

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I am quite certain the system recognises the claim draw as I have used it myself when a certain opponent, who was higher rated, refused to resign in a similar position.

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
even with 2 knights. It's impossible


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Originally posted by adramforall
I am quite certain the system recognises the claim draw as I have used it myself when a certain opponent, who was higher rated, refused to resign in a similar position.
Ah, now I understand - The system doesn't give you a draw automatically, but accepts a draw when it is claimed.

So if not claimed it's not given.

When I once had a three position repetition, non consecutively, I claimed a draw and got it immediately.

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I think 45. ... b5 would have won for Black. You should always look for tricks involving keeping the passed pawn one row further away from your opponents king. In this case White will probably win Black's knight, but Black will queen a few moves before White and then hoover up the loose pawns in no time at all.

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Originally posted by BLReid
[fen]7k/5N2/5NK1/8/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

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This position is unreachable in reality.

(the last two moves had to be Kh8 Nf7#. You can take the knight back one move but you can't find a square that the king could have come from to h8.In fact the position was a stalemate before the knights move๐Ÿ˜›)

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Originally posted by BFM
This position is unreachable in reality.

(the last two moves had to be Kh8 Nf7#. You can take the knight back one move but you can't find a square that the king could have come from to h8.In fact the position was a stalemate before the knights move๐Ÿ˜›)
The position certainly is possible to reach and it is trivial to construct the last few moves which led to this position. However the defending side in a king and two knights vs king ending has to be very careless to allow himself to be mated. It is not possible for the side with the knights to force mate.

I once got mated by two knights as my opponent also had a rook pawn. I had to take the pawn to prevent it queening and then I got mated in a very similar way to the above diagram.

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Originally posted by BFM
This position is unreachable in reality.
Are you sure? :-)



1.Nf6+ Kh8 2.Nf7+ #

Not forced, but reachable.

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Originally posted by BFM
This position is unreachable in reality.

(the last two moves had to be Kh8 Nf7#. You can take the knight back one move but you can't find a square that the king could have come from to h8.In fact the position was a stalemate before the knights move๐Ÿ˜›)
Fat Lady and Varenka have already pointed out that the position is in fact reachable. That brings us to the point of my original post, which was to poke a little fun at Ice Cold who said that this mate was impossible. It is true that this mate can only be reached if the losing side plays into it (so it isn't forced), but it could only be an insufficient material draw if mate were not possible "even with the most unskilled counterplay" (according to FIDE rules). Of course, we all know that the position is a draw nonetheless as it should always end up hitting the 50 move rule, so the players should just shake hands and go have a drink.

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Indeed. My logic failed me this time๐Ÿ™‚

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Originally posted by Varenka
Are you sure? :-)

[fen]6k1/8/6K1/4N3/4N3/8/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

1.Nf6+ Kh8 2.Nf7+ #

Not forced, but reachable.
I stand corrected. I was lead to believe it was not possible even with very bad moves. ๐Ÿ™‚

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