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    White has just played Ne2.
    Is that really a free g pawn?
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    12 Sep '09 08:07
    I thought you posted this earlier. Qa4+
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    12 Sep '09 09:20
    That other one was very similar but different slightly though theme the same
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    Bxf2+ is very tempting and is probably the move I would play if I had this position.





    Now Black can take the 'g' pawn, because it's with check!



    After White moves his King, Black will take the pawn on f5, getting another pawn for the piece.






    Black will soon castle and attack down the f-file. White will need to defend well to survive.
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    12 Sep '09 10:532 edits
    Originally posted by David Tebb
    [fen]rnbqk2r/ppp3pp/5n2/2bppP2/6P1/2PP4/PP2NP1P/RNBQKB1R[/fen]

    [b]Bxf2+
    is very tempting and is probably the move I would play if I had this position.

    [fen]rnbqk2r/ppp3pp/5n2/3ppP2/6P1/2PP4/PP2Nb1P/RNBQKB1R[/fen]

    [fen]rnbqk2r/ppp3pp/5n2/3ppP2/6P1/2PP4/PP2NK1P/RNBQ1B1R b kq[/fen]

    Now Black can take the 'g' pawn, because it's with check!
    ...[text shortened]... Black will soon castle and attack down the f-file. White will need to defend well to survive.[/b]


    OK I tried to post David's post as pgn, I couldn't make it work. doesn't this site support pgns from set positions?
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    oops i didnt consider Bf2+
    Not sure if that would actually be good but i never planned to have that possibility.
  7. e4
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    12 Sep '09 11:472 edits
    You can post a PGN from a set position but it must be with
    WHITE to move.

    So I take the position back and make it White to play it should work.




    Agree Black has oodles of play for the piece.
    A very good OTB position for Black.
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    12 Sep '09 11:57
    Black doesn't seem to be active enough for Bxf2, White can carry out Kg1 Bg2 h3 Kh2 as far as i can see and black struggles to put the white king in any real danger, with time enough to develop and bring out the sleeping queenside
  9. Standard memberKristaps
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    12 Sep '09 12:47
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    You can post a PGN from a set position but it must be with
    [b]WHITE
    to move.

    So I take the position back and make it White to play it should work.

    [pgn]
    [Event "Edited game"]
    [Site "END-CFB10B3985E"]
    [Date "2009.09.12"]
    [Round "-"]
    [White "-"]
    [Black "-"]
    [Result "*"]
    [FEN "rnbqk2r/ppp2ppp/5n2/2bppP2/8/2PP4/PP2NPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 ...[text shortened]... Black has oodles of play for the piece.
    A very good OTB position for Black.[/b]


    Except this is the real pgn. There is no pawn on f7, which makes it even better for black, because of 4. ... 0-0.
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    12 Sep '09 12:50
    Originally posted by Kristaps
    [pgn]
    [Event "Edited game"]
    [Site "END-CFB10B3985E"]
    [Date "2009.09.12"]
    [Round "-"]
    [White "-"]
    [Black "-"]
    [Result "*"]
    [FEN "rnbqk2r/ppp3pp/5n2/2bppP2/8/2PP4/PP2NPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
    [SetUp "1"]

    {--------------
    r n b q k . . r
    p p p . . p p p
    . . . . . n . .
    . . b p p P . .
    . . . . . . . .
    . . P P . . . .
    P P . . N P P P
    R N B ...[text shortened]... is no pawn on f7, which makes it even better for black, because of 4. ... 0-0.
    The real PGN starts Ne2 (not g4), starting the cheapo.
  11. e4
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    12 Sep '09 13:171 edit
    Originally posted by mazattack
    Black doesn't seem to be active enough for Bxf2, White can carry out Kg1 Bg2 h3 Kh2 as far as i can see and black struggles to put the white king in any real danger, with time enough to develop and bring out the sleeping queenside
    Well repaired Kristaps I used Winboard to set up the positon
    from the initial start position. Forgot to knock off the f7 pawn.

    Which does indeed make it better for Black.

    perhaps Maxeattack would like to reconsider his post after
    my deliberate error to see who was paying attention.

    This is a chess player's OTB position.
    Black will hit White when he unwinds. How does the b1 Knight
    get out A3 (wow).

    Black will reach APA (all pieces in acrtion) whilst both White Rooks
    are still on a1 and h1. And then the extra piece won't count.
    it is piece activity that counts.

    Black's game will play itself.
    White has a series of 'only moves to find. He is in blunderland.
    OTB for any under 2000 this is an awkward position.

    Play v a box - both sides. You will get an interesting game.

    I'd class this as unclear. OTB edge and all the fun to Black.
  12. Standard memberKristaps
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    12 Sep '09 13:221 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Well repaired Kristaps...
    Not so well, as Heinzkat pointed it out.

    But I agree that black will have fun playing that position.
  13. e4
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    12 Sep '09 13:44
    Originally posted by Kristaps
    Not so well, as Heinzkat pointed it out.

    But I agree that black will have fun playing that position.
    I know but I don't like giving Heinzcat credit for
    correcting my deliberate mistakes.
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    12 Sep '09 13:48
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    I know but I don't like giving Heinzcat credit for
    correcting my deliberate mistakes.
    These cheapos are pretty bad cheapos. I hope they don't become Dailey.
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    I kinda thought yesterdays was wonderful
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