23 May 07
Originally posted by EmLaskerOriginally posted by EmLasker
User 313747 i had my eyes on him for a couple of weeks...and like i expected, he cheats.
User 313747 i had my eyes on him for a couple of weeks...and like i expected, he cheats.
If he was a cheat he wasn't a very good one - see Game 3295350
23 May 07
I always wanted to know why moderators knows that somebody is cheating at games. If they takes blitz's reference, for example, It can be a chance to coincide with 7 or 8 consecutive moves, knowing that a computer program makes the best move, I think a good player can do it..
Last week I had a game with a player with 1110 ELO, and the first 20 moves I thought I was playing with a cheat, because he was making his/her moves too perfect for their rating..later he/she started to have blunders and I won..but at first it was really suspect..
25 May 07
Originally posted by aGoRessivEWhat - you mean they refuse or just don't play games with short time controls?
Yesterday I put a message on this thread. I innocently asked why can moderators knows If somebody is cheating, and what does it take as reference (I supose blitz). A few minutes later, somebody (of the moderators) cleaned up my message.
And now I ask: Is this a dangerous question?
25 May 07
Originally posted by aGoRessivEUm...
Yesterday I put a message on this thread. I innocently asked why can moderators knows If somebody is cheating, and what does it take as reference (I supose blitz). A few minutes later, somebody (of the moderators) cleaned up my message.
And now I ask: Is this a dangerous question?
Are you perhaps referring to the post directly above your last one?
25 May 07
Originally posted by aGoRessivEI read your post and put it back. It was alerted for the word 'cheat' and I believe another moderator removed it during a different clean-up of name calling and cheat accusations.
Yesterday I put a message on this thread. I innocently asked why can moderators knows If somebody is cheating, and what does it take as reference (I supose blitz). A few minutes later, somebody (of the moderators) cleaned up my message.
And now I ask: Is this a dangerous question?
The game moderators check a lot more than engine matches in a row, and percentages etc. RHP can't really explain in depth the methods used because it would be a guide to users how to get away with cheating.
It is very hard to prove a user is cheating, so when they are removed I believe you can rest assured they were cheating.
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25 May 07
Originally posted by aGoRessivEHe could have been using a database. Some dbs go as deep as 20 moves.
Last week I had a game with a player with 1110 ELO, and the first 20 moves I thought I was playing with a cheat, because he was making his/her moves too perfect for their rating..later he/she started to have blunders and I won..but at first it was really suspect..
25 May 07
Originally posted by clarencecuasayA database is normally of games not openings, someone would be quite entitled to use a db of previously played games in the endgame if they happenned to get a position that matched one on their database.
He could have been using a database. Some dbs go as deep as 20 moves.
25 May 07
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Originally posted by DeepThoughtTrue, but it is highly unlikely that you will find matching positions in any useful quantity. One is rare. Two games would be really freaky. More than that and you're in statistical no-man's land.
A database is normally of games not openings, someone would be quite entitled to use a db of previously played games in the endgame if they happenned to get a position that matched one on their database.
So great, your db will tell you how a GM/IM moved in that position. But the moment your opponent responds differently to your GM/IM's opponent you're back in the dark. And what have you gained? Probably nothing, or even worse, you may well have made a move that you don't fully understand and which may have dire consequences further down the line.
Really, I think even looking for matches beyond the opening phase is a complete waste of effort. In the latter stage of the game there is just no (legal) substitute for playing the game to the best of your ability.
25 May 07
Originally posted by adricsrevengeA 2100+ player would not keep playing K vs K and R. Even I can mate that one.
Originally posted by EmLasker
[b]User 313747 i had my eyes on him for a couple of weeks...and like i expected, he cheats.
If he was a cheat he wasn't a very good one - see Game 3295350[/b]
26 May 07
Originally posted by aGoRessivEActually i reported him after a blitz game. He/she played some really odd stuff, ie selecting a line that lead to a direct Queen swap yet still thought about it for 10 seconds, which, in a 2 minute game is simply ridiculous, especially for someone graded over 2000. This behaviour just screams engine, he was using the same amount of time on every move whether the move was obvious or required thought. The mods did an incredible job, he was banned quite quickly so one would assume the evidence was rather over whelming!
I always wanted to know why moderators knows that somebody is cheating at games. If they takes blitz's reference, for example, It can be a chance to coincide with 7 or 8 consecutive moves, knowing that a computer program makes the best move, I think a good player can do it..
Last week I had a game with a player with 1110 ELO, and the first 20 moves I t ...[text shortened]... r rating..later he/she started to have blunders and I won..but at first it was really suspect..