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Originally posted by danielkirk1There's one way too find out daniel. Start a game. Try playing only low rated players at first untill you get the hang of things then move up too tougher opponents once you improve. Getting demolished by a strong player probably won't do anything to encourage your wanting play.
I don't play much chess really, but i'm interested in playing. The problem is, that i'm no genious and was just wondering if it's possible to become a good chess player and not be intelligent. Someone told me it depends most on knowledge and pattern recognition. What do you think?
To answer the question about being able to be a good chess player and not be intelligent. As in everything it takes time to learn from mistakes and improve. Too be really good you should play often and maybe get a chess puzzle book that you can study. This really helps in learning tactics.
Someone intellegent in chess is very likely stupid in other things. So having to be intelligent to play chess? Intelligent in what?
I'm sure you are more intelligent in some things, than other people are.
If you want a game; i'd be willing to play you one. Let's try an unrated one at first. If it bothers you to risk rating points at this point. I will take it easy on you in our game if you want and are not very good at it yet. And will try to point out some mistakes that i see and give suggestions. Win or loss; the point is too just have fun.
It's called a game for a reason, right? It shouldn't be taken too seriously. Open a game and see what happens. Good luck! 🙂
-- Paul (Pavlo87)
Originally posted by exigentskyI think it's a pretty good analogy. both games are about pattern recognition, tactics and theory. it doesn't matter how fast or physically strong you are, if you suck at those areas you'll suck at baseball. if you can't see where your opponents and team mates are going to be a moment later (and they're all moving in different directions simultaneously unlike in chess!), you're not gonna make it. and scoring is like mating, if you can't create the situation with positional playing, you're never gonna get even close to the hoop.
Basketball really isn't the same kind of game as chess and so it's not a good analogy. But, of course, you don't have to be intelligent to be good at chess. Rybka's not intelligent and she's doing just fine. :p
You absolutely do not need to be a genius to be a good chess player. There's a bit of self-selection bias in chess - smart people tend to get taught chess, therefore most good chessplayers tend to be smart.
Which is not to say that intelligence won't help you, make things easier, or give you a little edge, because it absolutely will. And if you want to be world champion one day, you'll need to be very intelligent (because you'll need every little edge you can get over the competition). But there's no need to have a 180 IQ in order to become a very good player.
Originally posted by danielkirk1It depends on many factors, but intelligence is definitely a big factor in both how quickly and how far you can develop your chess ability. The question you need to ask yourself is.....do you need to become a "good" chess player in order to enjoy the game of chess?
I don't play much chess really, but i'm interested in playing. The problem is, that i'm no genious and was just wondering if it's possible to become a good chess player and not be intelligent. Someone told me it depends most on knowledge and pattern recognition. What do you think?
Originally posted by danielkirk1I know the answer to this. It's because I researched it in a few articles and books. No, you don't have to be a genious or highly intelligent to play chess. What do you mean by good? Good to seasoned professionals is like 2000 (expert). That's good! Some people think 1800 A-Class USCF is a good player. But, the grandmaster thinks he's a patzer. A good player? To me, Good is A-class, great is Expert, superb is Master and Exceptional is 2300-2500. 2500+? The word I'd use is WIZARD AND INVENTOR OF THE CHESS THEORIES (novelties!, novelties!, novelties!, surprise!, surprise!, surprise!)
I don't play much chess really, but i'm interested in playing. The problem is, that i'm no genious and was just wondering if it's possible to become a good chess player and not be intelligent. Someone told me it depends most on knowledge and pattern recognition. What do you think?
Anyway, with that said, to be a wizard, you need more than average intelligence. (Fischer: 188 IQ, Kasparov 170 - should I say more, Karpov was up there, too, around 160+ I think) To be a class player, any person with enough dedication, average intelligence and the malady of obsessive compulsive disorder, can probably get there with a little determination and an hour of study each day. I just taught someone chess the other day. He's not exactly an Einstein. It felt good to deliver the gift to him, and now he's playing all over San Diego with people. Awesome huh? That feeling of sharing the game you love most?