26 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterI play both, they involve different skills. Chess is a game of complete information, you know where all the pieces are, and can calculate lines of play. In bridge you only know what is in your hand and on table. You have to find plans that allow for all possible combinations of cards, and if you can't then do some sensible bet hedging. A hand of bridge takes about 15 minutes. A lot of the skill is being able to remember what's gone and work out what must be left. Generally there is one important play per hand. Chess games are more complicated, there may be several critical points, and you have to show good technique for longer.
The variations, and possibiltes in chess are almost endless.
I would think thre is a limit to the patterns needed to memorize in bridge
On balance most bridge players would accept that chess is a harder game, although there is probably more initial learning with bridge, as you have to understand bidding. On the other hand there's more scope for a total swindle; it's possible to attempt to play your cards in an order to make your opponents think you have different ones. There is much less scope in chess for traps, as the position is in front of you.
26 Jan 06
Originally posted by ram123Chess players are not necessarily intelligent anyway. It's been proven chess players - who are good - just have good visual memory. They have a mess of tactical ideas already naturally memorized. They have openings memorized. Tactical agility can be learned. Basically, it all memorization and regurgitation. Where is the intelligence involved? Anyone with average intelligence can become a chess master with hard work and determination. World Champion Emmanuel Lasker said that. He's right. Bridge? I've heard it's a card version of chess. Same thing. Thought with visualization recall.
hi,
My friends who play both bridge and chess says that bridge requires more thinking ;-) than chess !!! is it so?
26 Jan 06
Originally posted by powershakerWho's proven this, can you give a reference? Other than Lasker's off hand comments - he was trying to sell a book. Someone posted a link to a cognitive psychology paper in another thread and they'd analysed grandmaster games and interviewed them, which said that the strongest players use quite abstract methods to visualize games. Some of the strongest blindfold players use means they just can't explain verbally. I think there's more to it than a good visual memory and being good at tactics.
It's been proven chess players - who are good - just have good visual memory.
27 Jan 06
Both require thought, but Bridge is more about communication with your partner and working together to establish the value of your hand. Then working together throughout the came. If you had team chess where you had to alternate moves and bid on your game without talking to your partner....