Don't move the pawns dang it

Don't move the pawns dang it

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Originally posted by st40
I was following a database until you went out of it with Nd1
12 full moves... some would call that cheating.

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Should of played f3 after black played bg7 in the opening. I may be a lesser fish, just saying.

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Originally posted by Trev33
12 full moves... some would call that cheating.
pardon Trev?

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Anansi

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Originally posted by hintjul
Should of played f3 after black played bg7 in the opening. I may be a lesser fish, just saying.
Yes - I hear you both, that Qd2 is not the way

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Originally posted by Trev33
12 full moves... some would call that cheating.
Easy there now...

This is within the TOS, and the tradition of CC chess. Published human analysis, the latest chess mag whatever. Radio matches same thing.

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I think trev was being cheeky.

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Originally posted by Exuma
Easy there now...

This is within the TOS, and the tradition of CC chess. Published human analysis, the latest chess mag whatever. Radio matches same thing.
It might be within the TOS but it's hardly what you want to be playing against... it's basically plagiarism.

Any one who uses databases to make their moves should have a * beside their rating... i don't want to play them.

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Originally posted by Trev33
It might be within the TOS but it's hardly what you want to be playing against... it's basically plagiarism.

Any one who uses databases to make their moves should have a * beside their rating... i don't want to play them.
I remember most of my database anyway... LOL.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
I remember most of my database anyway... LOL.
I haven't used DB's... but I don't think it loses much. If I did use a DB I'd just get stuck in positions I haven't studied. Without it, I feel pretty comfortable most of the time.

There might be a few positions I'll check into it - English Symmetrical is one. I can't really think of anything else where I need more DB work. It may be valuable for newer players though... or if you recorded your own games and checked where you're weakest?

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Originally posted by PhySiQ
I haven't used DB's... but I don't think it loses much. If I did use a DB I'd just get stuck in positions I haven't studied. Without it, I feel pretty comfortable most of the time.

There might be a few positions I'll check into it - English Symmetrical is one. I can't really think of anything else where I need more DB work. It may be valuable for newe ...[text shortened]... ers though... or if you recorded your own games and checked where you're weakest?

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I generally don't use them anymore but I have become so familiar with most of the ideas in the openings I use that I could play them many moves deep or I can leave "book" early knowing that my idea fits if I have a hunch that my opponent doesn't know what to do.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
I generally don't use them anymore but I have become so familiar with most of the ideas in the openings I use that I could play them many moves deep or I can leave "book" early knowing that my idea fits if I have a hunch that my opponent doesn't know what to do.
For instance.

This game my opponent leaves book at move 8 (I didn't even know we were still in book at that point) but the ideas still flow until I start to get in time trouble... I still try to use constructive ideas and they work out but only because my opponent blundered.

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Originally posted by Trev33
It might be within the TOS but it's hardly what you want to be playing against... it's basically plagiarism.

Any one who uses databases to make their moves should have a * beside their rating... i don't want to play them.
This is interesting, and I admit I have felt this on occasion, more than 10 moves into some game, not playing chess but copying. Opening books lead to this also. On the other hand, all the openings I play are copied from someone at some point, learning chess is learning ideas from someone else no? How many moves is too many to copy?

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Originally posted by Exuma
This is interesting, and I admit I have felt this on occasion, more than 10 moves into some game, not playing chess but copying.
I copy the dragon all the time, and there have been 10 move sequences in this opening that I have regularly followed. I would never have been able to come up with the dragon on my own, so is it plagiarism now I use it? 😉

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Originally posted by morgski
I copy the dragon all the time, and there have been 10 move sequences in this opening that I have regularly followed. I would never have been able to come up with the dragon on my own, so is it plagiarism now I use it? 😉
The dragon is a draw - if you copy the moves you will see 😉