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  1. 13 May '11 07:07 / 1 edit
    Age old topic...

    Even when the mate is inevitable, don't resign. Let the timebank deplete. Let the opponent take a 'Timeout' win.

    If you resign now, you will have an open slot and you can start a fresh game with another player and maybe you get to learn something new. So, what?

    Don't resign. NEVER.
  2. 13 May '11 09:44
    I fail to see your reasoning. So I should not resign because...?
  3. Subscriber roma45online
    st johnstone
    13 May '11 09:54
    Originally posted by RamP
    Age old topic...

    Even when the mate is inevitable, don't resign. Let the timebank deplete. Let the opponent take a 'Timeout' win.

    If you resign now, you will have an open slot and you can start a fresh game with another player and maybe you get to learn something new. So, what?

    Don't resign. NEVER.
    worst advice and "logic" EVER posted here😠
  4. 13 May '11 10:32
    Ramp , take a cheap generic Indian valium and relax , you only have 4 days and 17 hours to wait.
  5. 13 May '11 11:56
    I suspect the tongue is planted firmly in the cheek - albeit through gritted teeth. That is one of the frustrations of being limited to 6 concurrent games.

    I believe this is the game in question:
    http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=8352492

    Have you considered becoming a subscriber?
  6. 13 May '11 12:05
    Originally posted by andrew93
    I suspect the tongue is planted firmly in the cheek - albeit through gritted teeth. That is one of the frustrations of being limited to 6 concurrent games.

    I believe this is the game in question:
    http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=8352492

    Have you considered becoming a subscriber?
    @Vartiovuori, My 2 cents - If my position is like 'mate is inevitable' or if I am considerably down in material that I cannot win, I resign and move onto another game. 2 more cents - take everyone's advice, but decide for yourself πŸ™‚

    @roma45, LOL πŸ˜€

    Thank God Kaminsky and Andrew93 got my tongue-in-cheek-with-gritted-teeth comment.

    Can't comment on an on-going game 😞
  7. 13 May '11 13:32
    Originally posted by RamP
    Age old topic...

    Even when the mate is inevitable, don't resign. Let the timebank deplete. Let the opponent take a 'Timeout' win.

    If you resign now, you will have an open slot and you can start a fresh game with another player and maybe you get to learn something new. So, what?

    Don't resign. NEVER.
    Subscribe, don't take the timeout win, set up a conditional move for the win and let your opponent waste one of his 6 game spaces.
  8. Subscriber roma45online
    st johnstone
    13 May '11 22:53
    Originally posted by RamP
    Age old topic...

    Even when the mate is inevitable, don't resign. Let the timebank deplete. Let the opponent take a 'Timeout' win.

    If you resign now, you will have an open slot and you can start a fresh game with another player and maybe you get to learn something new. So, what?

    Don't resign. NEVER.
    get it now, sorry thought you where losing. top sarcasm. πŸ™‚πŸ™‚πŸ™‚πŸ™‚πŸ™‚
  9. 17 May '11 17:52
    Originally posted by adramforall
    Subscribe, don't take the timeout win, set up a conditional move for the win and let your opponent waste one of his 6 game spaces.
    πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€
  10. 18 May '11 19:05
    I have to agree, it can be quite irritating when delivering mate to your opponent is inevitable, and they refuse to either resign or even make a move. I find this very poor behaviour, and hope it's not overly common.
  11. 18 May '11 19:08
    Originally posted by adramforall
    Subscribe, don't take the timeout win, set up a conditional move for the win and let your opponent waste one of his 6 game spaces.
    Yes, but this presumes that the person acting the maggot is a non-subscriber. What is one to do when a subscriber is the one about to be mated, and refuses to either make a move or resign..
  12. 18 May '11 21:07
    Hi Murcho

    I defend the non-resigners.

    First, you have to realise that some of the lads on here are purely casual players
    and may not know they are getting beat hands down and checkmate will come
    as a surprise to them.

    Second, some think resigning is bad manners and do not want to deprived
    someone of giving them checkmate.

    Third, if you look back through their games history and find just one
    stalemate then they will always play on hoping for another.

    (you may have missed an earlier thread on the same subject)

    There is a lad on here, Soni User 240651 who has been
    involved in a stalemate 10 times! Here are just three examples.

    Soni - Talonboss RHP 2006


    White to play. (he can't, this is stalemate).

    Cheshire Cat - Soni RHP 2007


    Here Black played 70...Rg8+! forcing 71.Kxg8 stalemate

    Soni - Very Rusty RHP 2007


    White has just played 57.a6-a7 it's Stalemate.[/b]

    So you have to cut the guys some slack. πŸ˜‰
  13. 19 May '11 16:22
    All good arguments, but what is your defence of someone who's about to be mated who neither makes a move, nor resigns πŸ˜‰

    Nobody should resign if they do not want to, but when the same player refuses to play any further moves, or only does so upon being prodded, then that is indefensible poor form, in my opinion, especially when that player continues to play and move in their other games..
  14. Subscriber roma45online
    st johnstone
    19 May '11 16:53
    Originally posted by Murchu
    All good arguments, but what is your defence of someone who's about to be mated who neither makes a move, nor resigns πŸ˜‰

    Nobody should resign if they do not want to, but when the same player refuses to play any further moves, or only does so upon being prodded, then that is indefensible poor form, in my opinion, especially when that player continues to play and move in their other games..
    well said the game in question the opponent is out of time, 10 days but has moved in every other game every day what a idiot, ramp has not clicked the skull yet, good idea make him look dafter if that is possible
  15. 20 May '11 01:26
    "...but what is your defence of someone who's about to be mated
    who neither makes a move, nor resigns ."

    We must not discuss games in progress (GIP's).

    So I shall discuss a scenario from games that have finished.

    Muggins is about to be mated by Higgins.
    Muggins looks at Higgins other games and sees he is winning those too.

    So Muggins holds off resigning for as long as possible hoping Higgins
    can score a few more wins pushing up his grade thus make the points
    dropped by Muggins fewer.

    Other reasons for not resigning or choosing to lose on a timeout.

    If you check the history you may find the players have played before
    this is revenge for that player doing the same to them.
    (not aplicaple in this case.)

    When making the move that will mate next move against any defence
    the winner may have sent a message with it.

    "....And Mate next move."

    or


    "Good game but I am check mating you next move."

    or

    "It's mate you dummy, how on earth did you fall for that?"

    That kind of thing and the losing player goes into a huff.

    Perhaps the player is saving up all the checkmates against him to see
    if he can be checkmated in all 6 games on the same day.

    This would not suprise me.
    It does appear as if some of the lads on here (God bless them) are under the
    impression that getting checkmated actually wins the game and go to
    great lengths to get themselves mated.

    If you had seen what I have seen you then you would agree. πŸ˜‰

    One example.

    Jamesqt - sica RHP 2008