e4 Nf6, now what for White?

Please only serious chess here, I'm looking for feedback on what to play after 1.e4 Nf6 ?

I know about e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.f4?!

Anything else other than f4 that works for White? Especially looking for answer from Atticus2 and Fat Lady, and other strong OTB players please.

Hey a chess topic

This is called the Alekhine defense.

Let me know if I can help you further

Originally posted by E3xod
Please only serious chess here, I'm looking for feedback on what to play after 1.e4 Nf6 ?

I know about e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.f4?!

Anything else other than f4 that works for White? Especially looking for answer from Atticus2 and Fat Lady, and other strong OTB players please.

Nc3.

Simple ,


d3. if you are a king indian attack lover.


So.
Nc3 and d3 work fine, why should embark in black provactive game.à

Sure 2. d3 is arrogance.

It`s true folks 5.f4 is loosening although the net result may not be bad for white it is definately loosening and so not to everyones taste.
One option that some Alekhine players don`t like to much is the exchange variation where white takes blacks d6 pawn.
White players under 2300 are more prepared for ...cxd6 than ...exd6 on average I predict.

I quite like to play this system.

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 2.c4 Nb6 3.c5 Nd4 4.Nc3
It is called the chase variation, and cuts out some of blacks theory - you should be very careful of this opening as it tends to be played by people who know quite a bit about what they are doing - if a beginner plays it the chances are high that he will get slaughtered quickly and, therefore, most people do not learn the alekhines dfence as a first opening but take it up much later in their chess career when their play has improved.

There's nothing wrong with 5. f4. It's a little loosening, and leads to unbalanced positions, especially after lines involving ...Bxf3 and ...Qh4+. The move is no longer played at the very highest level. But typically, IMs will use it to chop down FMs and weaker players in tournaments. Like many four-pawn attacks (Benoni, KID etc), the benefits of aggression and space against poorly prepared opponents outweigh the structural disadvantages.

The alternative 5. exd6 followed by normal development leads to quieter, more predictable positions. So, for a bit of fun, 5. f4 is worth playing

1.e4 Nf6 2.f3 and that is Mr Theory out of the book (and out of pocket
to the tune of £14.95) on move two.

Agree with T.Chex
Alekhine Defence players are always booked up to the skids.

They need the theory to get them a playable game.
You cannot play this opening off the cuff.

1.e4 Nf6 2.f3!



and if the sap is daft enough to play 2....e5 then 3.f4!



A pure Latvian Gambut reversed.

One of my games playing this is actually discussed in one the Adjoran
'Black is OK books'. (near the front - I don't have the book).

Chandler v Henderson (sometime in 1990's).
I lost it - blew the bloody thing by not playing Kb1 after 0-0-0.
Came out the opening alive and kicking so we can't blame 2.f3!

I cannot remember the game except the first few moves,
Me not playing 0-0-0 and then trying a cheapo towards the end.

A good cheapo as well - the book gave it a diagram.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1127283

There's an FM Irontigran commenting on that game...

I play Alekhine's regularly. At RHP, almost everyone I've played plays 2. Nc3. I usually transpose to the Pirc, although black can usually play 2. ... d5 with a reasonable game. In the line with 5. f4, I favor ...cxd6 because there is more play- ...exd6 is considered more solid.

I would meet 2. f3 with ...g6, with the idea of taking the game to a Pirc or King's Indian Saemisch. White almost has to go that way, because he can't really push to e5 early after 2. f3 because otherwise the pawn on f3 does more harm than good.

I don't like to face 2. d3, and I would favor playing it as White, as I play the King's Indian Attack myself OTB. If playing AGAINST the KIA, all the lines I would prefer do not involve ...Nf6, so right at the first move I would be in a position I would not prefer.

This is just my opinion and approach to Alekhine's, and I am just a hack chess player, so I would not take it as any more than that.

Paul

Originally posted by heinzkat
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1127283

There's an FM Irontigran commenting on that game...

Originally posted by greenpawn34
Bunch of patzers looking at one of my games - bwah!

Not one of them noticed the Latvian idea.
And the bozo who said 2...d5 is a clown.
3.e5 and the Alekhine Knght does not have d5.

The Fools.

Did you see my no KB1 blunder - I am a dipstick.

Originally posted by Paul Leggett
After 3. e5 Black has 3. ... d4, which has served GM Kengis well.

Originally posted by heinzkat
4. exf6 GG

edit: I guess you're talking about the 2. Nc3 variation though rather than the Greenpawn 2. f3 variation

well,


To say things, tought.

2. d3, 2. f3 and 2.Nc3 are all option that allow to kepp the pawn.

I doubt Bd3 is okay. but maybe Qf3 is, or even Qe2....