quick question, couldn't find the answer elswhere: are material points also taken into account when the "new" ELO score is computed?
In other words, if I manage to take a higher rated player's queen and rook, but lose the game, will I get a better score than if I had only taken his/her rook?
newbie, so be gentle. 😉
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Originally posted by sebimeyerNo. Wins, losses, draws (With significance on rating comparisons) only.
quick question, couldn't find the answer elswhere: are material points also taken into account when the "new" ELO score is computed?
In other words, if I manage to take a higher rated player's queen and rook, but lose the game, will I get a better score than if I had only taken his/her rook?
newbie, so be gentle. 😉
Originally posted by sebimeyerthat would be the worst. i love to swap queens with newbies early and frustrate them that way. if it costs me points that just seems ridiculous,
quick question, couldn't find the answer elswhere: are material points also taken into account when the "new" ELO score is computed?
In other words, if I manage to take a higher rated player's queen and rook, but lose the game, will I get a better score than if I had only taken his/her rook?
newbie, so be gentle. 😉
Originally posted by sebimeyerThat would mean you got penalised for a brilliant sacrificial combination where you sacrifices a Q & 2Rs to deliver a smothered mate with your last knight. Where would the justice be in that?
quick question, couldn't find the answer elswhere: are material points also taken into account when the "new" ELO score is computed?
In other words, if I manage to take a higher rated player's queen and rook, but lose the game, will I get a better score than if I had only taken his/her rook?
newbie, so be gentle. 😉
Originally posted by pawnfondlerAs a general rule you will find it is higher rated players who resign and they do this because they know that the game is lost and they know that their opponent knows how to win it.
ive experienced both, for instance game 2759173 where the guy made me go through the procedure of bishop and rook mate which took 81 moves to achieve checkmate, but the game before that he resigns on the 15th move, go figure.
There is absolutely no point in putting yourself through a slow water torture constantly coming back to a game where you have no chance and just going through the motions with more pointless moves is depressing. Unless the game can be saved you are not even going to learn anything. Stronger players once decisive material up in a position with no counterplay and no complexities requiring careful calculations do not tend to drop pieces letting their opponent back into the game [OK even GMs blunder and it is possible they would make a mistake in 1 game in 100 but why put yourself through 99 games of torture to get there - it is depressing].
and if you play on K vs K&Q (or even K&R, K&2B, K,B&N, etc) where you know mate is inevitable and your opponent can do it and you take 3 days per move you are wasting, say, 30 days of his life and that is rude.
If you want him to play because you don't know how and want to see it done PM him that and play it quickly. Any decent player will be happy to show you how to win.
Originally posted by pawnfondlerI love doing that OTB against my opponents, who mainly rely on their queen a lot. I take the queens off, then use rooks (my favourite piece) to take apart their position.
that would be the worst. i love to swap queens with newbies early and frustrate them that way. if it costs me points that just seems ridiculous,
Originally posted by sebimeyerThe purpose of the game is to checkmate. How the players get there is not relevant.
quick question, couldn't find the answer elswhere: are material points also taken into account when the "new" ELO score is computed?
In other words, if I manage to take a higher rated player's queen and rook, but lose the game, will I get a better score than if I had only taken his/her rook?
newbie, so be gentle. 😉
If your opponent loses significant material and still wins, that means he/she played far better than you and should not be penalised for it.