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Do good players just resign when they have a king and a bishop or knight and they're fighting a queen? What's the general way of going for stale-mate? Is it to head for a corner with all pieces?

I'm not looking for help on a particular game :-)

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Originally posted by connerac
Do good players just resign when they have a king and a bishop or knight and they're fighting a queen? What's the general way of going for stale-mate? Is it to head for a corner with all pieces?

I'm not looking for help on a particular game :-)
good players facing good players resign long before they reach that point, but there are exceptions:

White to move and draw:

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
good players facing good players resign long before they reach that point, but there are exceptions:

White to move and draw:

[fen]7k/8/8/8/8/1q6/6R1/K7 w - - 0 1[/fen]
Great players never resign! πŸ™‚ Be it chess or any other game.

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Originally posted by yashsr
Great players never resign! πŸ™‚ Be it chess or any other game.
You obviously haven't paid much attention to the games of 'great players'.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
good players facing good players resign long before they reach that point, but there are exceptions:

White to move and draw:

[fen]7k/8/8/8/8/1q6/6R1/K7 w - - 0 1[/fen]
I don't see a Bishop or a Knight here.

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The answer to this puzzle appears to be: keep checking the King with the Rook. If the King takes the Rook, stalemate If not, keep checking, then the 50-move rule will come into play.


Keep playing if the other is slightly above average or lower in strength. Such players (like me!!!) tend to blunder away won games.

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Originally posted by Bowmann
I don't see a Bishop or a Knight here.
There's a nuance in "long before" that you are missing. I apologize for going above your sphere of knowledge once again, troll.

Here, I'll break it down.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
good players facing good players resign long before they reach that point, but there are exceptions:.

Because a rook is more valuable than a bishop or knight, and because a rook is usually impotent against a queen, most players facing good players will resign when they are on the weaker end of such an imbalance--"long before" it is bishop against queen.

Here's another example of a terrible material deficit for white in which resignation would be a serious blunder, even though black threatens checkmate on the next move. White's move:

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
good players facing good players resign long before they reach that point, but there are exceptions:

White to move and draw:

[fen]7k/8/8/8/8/1q6/6R1/K7 w - - 0 1[/fen]
Draw... HOW?

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Originally posted by Rebounder
Draw... HOW?
heheπŸ˜›

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Originally posted by Rebounder
Draw... HOW?
Rh2, after the king moves just use the rook to check the king along the H file. If the king captures the rook then its stalemate, if it doesnt the rook can keep checking.

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I've explained how. White keeps checking the Black King. If black takes the rook, it's stalemate. I think it works, but white has to be careful. Have I got it right?

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R-KN8 (I am middle-aged) draws the game!!!

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*Sigh*

Yes the rook must keep checking, but it must do so from the second rank. If the king moves in and capture the rook, stalemate. If the queen captures the rook on c2, stalemate. If the king moves to the b-file, the rook skewers the queen and both come off the board, leading to a draw by insufficient material. If the king keeps running from the checks, either the 50-move rule or repetition of position will come into play.

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Originally posted by znsho
R-KN8 (I am middle-aged) draws the game!!!
1.R-KN8ch is refuted by 1...QxR.

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AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Why did I not see this!!!!!

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