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Endgame Thoughts on this Over the Board Positio...

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This position occurred yesterday evening at the chess club between two of our esteemed members which I happened to observe. A draw was agreed at this point (black to move).

I just wondered what others make of the position. In particular I wonder how things would go if black tried 1... Kd5 and white then replied 2. Kf4 ? [Slight edit - I'm thinking of the lines when black tries to promote a pawn on the queenside and white tries to promote on the kingside]



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Originally posted by tapestry
This position occurred yesterday evening at the chess club between two of our esteemed members which I happened to observe. A draw was agreed at this point (black to move).

I just wondered what others make of the position. In particular I wonder how things would go if black tried 1... Kd5 and white then replied 2. Kf4 ?

[fen]8/8/6p1/p3kp1p/P6P/4K1P1/8/8[/fen]

Black to move.
What about 1...Kf6? Wouldn't that be better?

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Originally posted by tapestry
I just wondered what others make of the position. In particular I wonder how things would go if black tried 1... Kd5 and white then replied 2. Kf4 ?
Interesting. The key line seems to be 1...Kd5 2.Kf4 Kc5 3.Kg5 Kb4 4.Kxg6 Kxa4 5.Kxf5* Kb3 6.g4 hxg4 7.h5 g3 8.h6 g2 9.h7 g1=Q 10.h8=Q


Is this Q+P endgame a win or a draw?

*5.Kxh5 and promoting the h pawn doesn't work as Black's a pawn queens first covering h1.

I'd prefer 2.Kd3 keeping the opposition and stopping Black's king penetrating into White's position.

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Yeah Schumi.

That's what I got to and then ran into difficulties trying to win the Q v Q + P endgame. As soon as black tries to push the pawn white can start checks and I couldn't see a way to escape for black.

The line with 1...Kf6 also looks interesting. I'll take a look at that this evening.

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Originally posted by Palynka
What about 1...Kf6? Wouldn't that be better?
I expect that would be winning but that's just gut feel, no calculation.

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Originally posted by Schumi
[fen]7Q/8/8/p4K2/8/1k6/8/6q1[/fen]
Is this Q+P endgame a win or a draw?
The endgame tablebase has this position as drawn with Black to move (also with White to move).

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