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  1. 20 Jul '06 20:12
    Rybka 2.1 has been released on the heels of Shredder 10 and now comes JUNIOR 10. This was already considered the best tactical engine in the world. I wonder what they've done with the new one. It should be available in August - just a heads up.
  2. 21 Jul '06 15:35
    How is it that you have no qualms about stealing something that other people have put hours, months and years of their life into? Rybka even has an older version that the author gives away for free yet you persist in stealing the latest and greatest, offering them no compensation for their hard work.
  3. 21 Jul '06 16:24 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by zebano
    How is it that you have no qualms about stealing something that other people have put hours, months and years of their life into? Rybka even has an older version that the author gives away for free yet you persist in stealing the latest and greatest, offering them no compensation for their hard work.
    Oh no, no qualms at all.

    In fact I consider it a crime to not steal programs.

    (in case anyone out there is a cop, I was just kidding.)
  4. Standard member HomerJSimpson
    Renouned Grob Killer
    21 Jul '06 16:28 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by LanndonKane
    Oh no, no qualms at all.

    In fact I consider it a crime to not steal programs.

    (in case anyone out there is a cop, I was just kidding.)
    It would bother me if the engine were a little bit better priced, Deep Shredder is $110 which is quite excessive in my oppinion for a program that is less than 2MBs, and what makes it worse, is that most programs you buy like Any DVD give you free upgrades to new editions, not the case with Shredder.
  5. 21 Jul '06 16:30
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    It would bother me if the engine were a little bit better priced, Deep Shredder is $110 which is quite excessive in my oppinion for a program that is less than 2MBs, and what makes it worse, is that most programs you buy like Any DVD give you free upgrades to new editions, not the case with Shredder.
    Ok, but doesn't answer where you get eumle
  6. 21 Jul '06 16:34
    And the engines worked normally, no viruses or anything?
  7. 21 Jul '06 18:46
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    It would bother me if the engine were a little bit better priced, Deep Shredder is $110 which is quite excessive in my oppinion for a program that is less than 2MBs, and what makes it worse, is that most programs you buy like Any DVD give you free upgrades to new editions, not the case with Shredder.
    If it's too expensive, don't buy it. That doesn't give you the right to effectively steal it.
  8. Standard member leisurelysloth
    Man of Steel
    21 Jul '06 18:58
    Originally posted by dottewell
    If it's too expensive, don't buy it. That doesn't give you the right to effectively steal it.
    effectively? I wouldn't think any qualifiers would be required.
  9. Standard member leisurelysloth
    Man of Steel
    21 Jul '06 19:01
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    It would bother me if the engine were a little bit better priced, Deep Shredder is $110 which is quite excessive in my oppinion for a program that is less than 2MBs, and what makes it worse, is that most programs you buy like Any DVD give you free upgrades to new editions, not the case with Shredder.
    So you wouldn't mind paying for it if they made it a big bloated monstrosity like Windows? But since it's only 2 MBs you steal it. Nice.
  10. 21 Jul '06 20:16
    I think it is abominable that you would steal from these people. If you want something, pay for it. If not, live without it.

    Your behavior is selfish and irresponsible (even more so now that you're actually encouraging stealing). Chess software does not grow on trees, it requires dedication, money and a tremendous amount of work to get where it is today. Chess software authors have bills to pay and families to feed. If people continuously steal from them, do you think they can really afford to continue in ches software? Many of them, including Vasik had other jobs in the software industry. If people behave like you, they will be forced to abandon chess and go back to their previous work. I have NO respect for people like you.
  11. 21 Jul '06 20:24
    Originally posted by LanndonKane
    And the engines worked normally, no viruses or anything?
    If there's any justice in this world, the software that you steal will be just chock full of all kinds of viruses, worms, trojans, and adware. Oh yes, and the file will also be corrupted.
  12. 21 Jul '06 20:28
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    It would bother me if the engine were a little bit better priced, Deep Shredder is $110 which is quite excessive in my oppinion for a program that is less than 2MBs, and what makes it worse, is that most programs you buy like Any DVD give you free upgrades to new editions, not the case with Shredder.
    Excessive? If you can afford to have TWO CPUS in your computer and you feel you NEED an engine strong enoung to take advantage of them is $110 really that much? The high end in any markey will be priced much higher. Furthermore, just because it's expensive does not make stealing correct. Ferraris are expensive too, does that make it any less wrong to steal a Ferrari? You DO NOT NEED Deep Shredder 10 or any chess engine for that matter and you have no right to steal it. If it were water that were far far overpriced and you had no money, stealing would be acceptable to preserve your life. This is not the case here.

    Moreover, you show an amazing lack of ignorance by comparing the work devoted to a program by size. Chess engines have no GUI to take up lots of space and are a completely different type of program to what you are used to. It is no wonder that they are small. However, this is no indicator that making the engine was an easy job. And again, this is a ridiculously stupid argument. Saying that something was easy to make does not justify stealing. Maybe I think pizza is easy to make and not a great value, should I steal from Pizza Hut?

    The chess software market, despite what you believe is actually not that profitable. For example, it is even uncertain if there will be a Chessmaster 11 due to lackluster sales. I'm not saying it is the best chess program ever, but it does show that even big companies have trouble making business work with chess. A big part of that reason is people like you. Just look at all the copy protection mechannisms Ubisoft had to impose on the rest of us because of you, it's a pain in the @ss and it still didn't work. Please don't force Vasik and other engine authors to do the same thing. Be moral.
  13. 21 Jul '06 20:43
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    It would bother me if the engine were a little bit better priced, Deep Shredder is $110 which is quite excessive in my oppinion for a program that is less than 2MBs, and what makes it worse, is that most programs you buy like Any DVD give you free upgrades to new editions, not the case with Shredder.
    I agree, Homer. I would gladly pay the full price if only the name of the program was longer, something like "Deep Shredder Super Deluxe". But since the name is only "Deep Shredder", then by all means, we should all steal the program.

    (In case not everyone gets it, the above statement was a clear attempt at sarcasm.)

    Don't you thieves understand how easy it is to cling to any ridiculous reason for rationalizing away your criminal acts? At least be honest with yourself and say that you stole the program because you have no morals, or you're completely self-centered and don't care a bit about anyone else, or because you're just scum. But you're not fooling us or yourself with your lame rationalizations.
  14. 21 Jul '06 20:50 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by LanndonKane
    Ok, but doesn't answer where you get eumle
    Excuse me, what about us mules?
  15. Standard member Grandmouster
    ChessObsessed
    21 Jul '06 20:57
    FileSharing is being watched by the government.
    They know.