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Exchanging the queen for two rooks..............

Exchanging the queen for two rooks..............

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..............I always though it wasn't worth it,but tried this exchange for the first time and it has been worth the exchange..........Game 796662

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Originally posted by Ravello
..............I always though it wasn't worth it,but tried this exchange for the first time and it has been worth the exchange..........Game 796662
Queen against two rooks in the end game, rooks are better.

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I would almost always prefer to 2 rooks ecxept in very closed possitions.

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Well with just pawns and no other pieces it's quite easy for the two rooks to gang up on a pawn and pick it off (the queen side has less defenders it can use.)
However you would have to be very careful of forks.

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Yes,I was continuosly checking the king hoping for a mistake,and eventually he did it.........

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when i played at school our coach always encouraged us to promote our pawns with rooks instead of queens, cos queens sometimes get you stalemates instead of wins.

its happened to a few of my opponents here.

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Originally posted by chris stephens
when i played at school our coach always encouraged us to promote our pawns with rooks instead of queens, cos queens sometimes get you stalemates instead of wins.

its happened to a few of my opponents here.
I've only ever seen one example where promotion to something other than a queen was the only path to a win (It was to a knight).
How about instead of that you just check before you make your move that your opponent will have a move to make (unless you are checking him of course). Doesn't take much to avoid giving stalemate.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I've only ever seen one example where promotion to something other than a queen was the only path to a win (It was to a knight).
How about instead of that you just check before you make your move that your opponent will have a move to make (unless you are checking him of course). Doesn't take much to avoid giving stalemate.
i meant my opponent has promoted to a queen which meant i drew the game instead of lost it. will look up these games for you.

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Here's another example of 2 rooks championing a queen.

Game 755480

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Originally posted by WestWood
Queen against two rooks in the end game, rooks are better.
WHOA! You guys aren't mentioning anything about the pawn structure!
The 2 rooks are only better if the side with the rooks doesn't have loose pawns!

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Originally posted by arrakis
WHOA! You guys aren't mentioning anything about the pawn structure!
The 2 rooks are only better if the side with the rooks doesn't have loose pawns!
As Arrakis points out it depends on the game. For example with other minor pieces on the board im probably going to take the queen and minor pieces. The more material on the board the more you might need to transport that materials infulence around, the queen is very good at this, where as the rooks take several moves to exert their infulence over a new part of the board. While the two rooks are thought to be worth 1 more point than a queen, it all depends on the game. If the king is exposed and their is minor pieces on the table or loose pawns then the queen is probably going to snap them up sooner or later.

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Originally posted by chris stephens
when i played at school our coach always encouraged us to promote our pawns with rooks instead of queens, cos queens sometimes get you stalemates instead of wins.

its happened to a few of my opponents here.
Ridiculous advice. Geez, what level were you girls playing at?

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