Originally posted by Dragon FireGame 2246770
I play the KG regularly but if facing it as black 2. ... d5 is the only answer.
Have you faced 3...d5 more then twices as white?
I only see 2 of your game for that variation.
1 win and 1 lost.
I like playing that variation as black. Had some decent OTB as black using that.
Originally posted by KunsooBlack gets open lines, preserves the crucial f-file & the pawn on e4 can be a bone in the throat.
I mean, I've always thought that it looked nice. But does black really get anything for the pawn?
In the line below which shows some basic Falkbeer themes, black actually claims a tempo & it is white who has the K safety issue:
1.e4...e5
2.f4...d5
3.exd5...e4
4.Nc3...Nf6
5.Bb5+...c6
6.dxc6...Nxc6
7.d3...exd3
8.cxd3...Bc5
white to play
Originally posted by SquelchbelchWhat about 4.d3 right away?
Black gets open lines, preserves the crucial f-file & the pawn on e4 can be a bone in the throat.
In the line below which shows some basic Falkbeer themes, black actually claims a tempo & it is white who has the K safety issue:
1.e4...e5
2.f4...d5
3.exd5...e4
4.Nc3...Nf6
5.Bb5+...c6
6.dxc6...Nxc6
7.d3...exd3
8.cxd3...Bc5
white to play
[fen]r1bqk2r/pp3ppp/2n2n2/1Bb5/5P2/2NP4/PP4PP/R1BQK1NR w KQkq - 0 9[/fen]
I see lots of White players play this right away.
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Originally posted by RahimKThat was dire!
Game 2246770
Have you faced 3...d5 more then twices as white?
I only see 2 of your game for that variation.
1 win and 1 lost.
I like playing that variation as black. Had some decent OTB as black using that.
I was over confident, blitzing the game and paid the pricewith a thorough thrashing.
The win Game 2324575 is better but still not great.
Heres a more recent win against better opposition Game 3172949, as is this Game 3172947 and this Game 3172945.
I learn from my mistakes.
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Originally posted by RahimKOk, after
What about 4.d3 right away?
I see lots of White players play this right away.
4.d3...exd3
5.Bxd3...Nf6
6.Nc3...c6 looks likely & ok for black.
white to play
I take your point about white removing the e4 pawn early though.
As a KG player, not being able to play an early Nc3, Bc4, 0-0 etc feels like the rug's been pulled out from under you & the black position just looks like granite.
Psychologically, the Falkbeer takes the wind out of white's sails & also gives black scope for tactics of their own in the quickest time possible.
Originally posted by Dragon FireYou have any other games with a bit higher rated opponents in that opening?
That was dire!
I was over confident, blitzing the game and paid the pricewith a thorough thrashing.
The win Game 2324575 is better but still not great.
Heres a more recent win against better opposition Game 3172949, as is this Game 3172947 and this Game 3172945.
I learn from my mistakes.
Say 1800+?
I think it's a good variation.
Nice games.
Originally posted by SquelchbelchLooks pretty decent for black.
Ok, after
4.d3...exd3
5.Bxd3...Nf6
6.Nc3...c6 looks likely & ok for black.
white to play
[fen]rnbqkb1r/pp3ppp/2p2n2/3P4/5P2/2NB4/PPP3PP/R1BQK1NR w KQkq - 0 7[/fen]
I take your point about white removing the e4 pawn early though.
As a KG player, not being able to play an early Nc3, Bc4, 0-0 etc feels like the rug's been pulled out from unde ...[text shortened]... white's sails & also gives black scope for tactics of their own in the quickest time possible.
I'll have to look into that for the future. I looked at it maybe 3 years ago and decided not to play the gambit. Not sure why though.
I think it has something to do with the e4-e3 pawn push and then trading it off later on.
Thanks.