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  1. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    11 Feb '10 17:12
    During the TV show "White Collar" which airs on the US TV station TNT, the following Fischer game is referenced. One character is studying the game, and another one walks in, identifies the game as Byrne-Fischer, 1956, and remarks that it is the one where Fischer sacrifices his queen on move 17. The episode is "Vital Signs", and it aired on Tuesday February 2nd. A chess board has been a recurring prop in the series, but this is the first time a pure chess reference has been made.

    Here's the game:

  2. 11 Feb '10 17:21
    That's a pretty sweet looking mate.
  3. 11 Feb '10 17:48
    Donald Byrne did a great service to chess history by playing it out to mate. The game has the feel of a complete story. Compare that to R. Byrne's very early resignation against Fischer in a later US championship (the one with Nxg2 instead of Nxd1).

    I'm hoping the culture of chess changes such that winning middlegame attacks are played out to mate.
  4. Standard member Exuma
    Anansi
    11 Feb '10 17:57
    Originally posted by DawgHaus
    Donald Byrne did a great service to chess history by playing it out to mate. The game has the feel of a complete story. Compare that to R. Byrne's very early resignation against Fischer in a later US championship (the one with Nxg2 instead of Nxd1).

    I'm hoping the culture of chess changes such that winning middlegame attacks are played out to mate.
    That would be so great. Thousands of games to look at with resignations too early. All that "technique" we never get to see
  5. 11 Feb '10 18:12
    That game is so last century.
  6. 11 Feb '10 19:28
    Originally posted by Green Paladin
    That game is so last century.
    Since that game is often called "The Game of the Century" (20th), do we have any candidates for "Game of the 21st Century?"
  7. Standard member Exuma
    Anansi
    11 Feb '10 19:34
    Originally posted by ParShooter
    Since that game is often called "The Game of the Century" (20th), do we have any candidates for "Game of the 21st Century?"
    Guess it could be a while

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  8. 11 Feb '10 20:44
    Originally posted by ParShooter
    Since that game is often called "The Game of the Century" (20th), do we have any candidates for "Game of the 21st Century?"
    I propose this one:

  9. 11 Feb '10 23:19 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    During the TV show "White Collar" which airs on the US TV station TNT, the following Fischer game is referenced. One character is studying the game, and another one walks in, identifies the game as Byrne-Fischer, 1956, and remarks that it is the one where Fischer sacrifices his queen on move 17. The episode is "Vital Signs", and it aired on Tuesday Fe 38. Kd1 Bb3+ 39. Kc1 Ne2+ 40. Kb1 Nc3+ 41. Kc1 Rc2# 0-1[/pgn]
    Does Fritz find the queen sacrifice and the mate ? Anyone ?
  10. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    12 Feb '10 00:17 / 4 edits
    Don't know about Fritz.

    Rybka agrees with the sacrafice:
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    12 00:36 757.438 21.283 -0.59 Qb6c7 Qa3xc3 b7b6 Bc5a3 Ra8d8 Qc3c1 Qc7c8 Rd1d3 b6b5 Bc4b3 a7a5 Qc1f4
    12 00:36 660.621 21.594 -0.23 Nc3b1 Qa3d3 Qb6c7 Qd3xb1 Bg4xf3 g2xf3 Qc7f4 Qb1d3 Ra8d8 Bc5xa7 Qf4c7 Ba7c5 b7b6 Bc5a3 Rd8xd4 Qd3b3 b6b5 Rd1xd4 Bg7xd4 Bc4e2 Qc7f4
    12 00:36 512.671 20.271 -0.21 Bg4xf3 g2xf3 Nc3b1 Qa3d3 Qb6c7 Qd3xb1 Qc7f4 Qb1d3 Ra8d8 Bc5xa7 Qf4c7 Ba7c5 b7b6 Bc5a3 Rd8xd4 Qd3b3
    12 00:36 407.400 19.547 -0.17 Nc3b5 Bc4xf7+ Kg8h8 Bc5xb6 Nb5xa3 Bb6c5 Re8f8 Bc5xf8 Ra8xf8 Rd1d3 Rf8xf7 Rd3xa3 Bg4xf3 Ra3xf3 Rf7xf3 g2xf3 Bg7xd4 Kf1e2 Kh8g7 Rh1b1 b7b6 Rb1f1 Kg7f7
    12 00:36 350.342 19.130 +1.46 Bg4e6 Qa3xc3 Qb6xc5 d4xc5 Bg7xc3 Bc4xe6 Re8xe6 g2g3 Ra8e8 Rd1b1 Re8e7 Rb1b3 Bc3a5 Kf1g2 Re6e2 Rh1b1
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    12 01:11 757.438 21.283 -0.59 Qb6c7 Qa3xc3 b7b6 Bc5a3 Ra8d8 Qc3c1 Qc7c8 Rd1d3 b6b5 Bc4b3 a7a5 Qc1f4
    13 01:11 1.465.421 21.149 -0.49 Nc3b1 Qa3d3 Qb6c7 Qd3xb1 Bg4xf3 g2xf3 Qc7f4 Qb1d3 b7b6 Bc5a3
    13 01:10 1.241.410 20.942 -0.40 Bg4xf3 g2xf3 Nc3b1 Qa3d3 Qb6d8 Qd3xb1 b7b6 Bc5b4 Qd8f6 Qb1d3 Ra8d8 Rh1g1 a7a5
    13 01:10 993.750 21.233 -0.20 Nc3b5 Bc4xf7+ Kg8h8 Bc5xb6 Nb5xa3 Bb6c5 Re8f8 Bc5xf8 Ra8xf8 Rd1d3 Rf8xf7 Rd3xa3 Bg4xf3 Ra3xf3 Rf7xf3 g2xf3 Bg7xd4 Kf1e2 Kh8g7 Rh1b1 b7b6 Rb1f1 Kg7f7 Ke2d3
    13 01:10 874.493 21.087 +1.45 Bg4e6 Qa3xc3 Qb6xc5 d4xc5 Bg7xc3 Bc4xe6 Re8xe6 g2g3 Ra8e8 Rd1b1 Re8e7 Rb1b3 Bc3f6 a2a3 g6g5 h2h3


    But Rybka finds mate faster than Fischer! #5 - with
    36...Ng3+ 37. Ke1 Re2+ 38. Kd1 Bb3+ 39. Kc1 Ba3+ 40. Kb1 Re1# 0-1
  11. Subscriber no1marauder
    Humble and Kind
    12 Feb '10 00:27
    Originally posted by ivanhoe
    Does Fritz find the queen sacrifice and the mate ? Anyone ?
    Within seconds.
  12. 12 Feb '10 00:47
    Originally posted by ivanhoe
    Does Fritz find the queen sacrifice and the mate ? Anyone ?
    The sacrifice is easy for any engine to find; Also note that as Nowakowski posted, the best line shows the queen sac should have been one-half move later. (But who am I to quibble? )

    But, even starting after 18.Bxb6, finding the mate is another matter. I doubt that any engine could find it quickly, if ever, since the mate is over 40 plies deep.
  13. 12 Feb '10 03:42 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by ParShooter
    Since that game is often called "The Game of the Century" (20th), do we have any candidates for "Game of the 21st Century?"
  14. 12 Feb '10 04:39
    white simple won on the purpose of his material superioty, I do not call that a sacrifice, but a really good move, which gain material, as thee queen is poisonned.
  15. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    12 Feb '10 04:43
    Originally posted by AudreyxSophie
    white simple won on the purpose of his material superioty, I do not call that a sacrifice, but a really good move, which gain material, as thee queen is poisonned.
    😕 white didn't win at all?