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I had an argument today with a friend about whether or not the Fried Liver is a reasonable opening. What are your thoughts on it?

For those of you who don't know it is 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7

Edits for spelling 🙂

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Originally posted by UserChevy
I had an argument today with a friend about whether or not the Fried Liver is a reasonable opening. What are your thoughts on it?

For those of you who don't know it is 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7

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I don't like live and I don't like fried food - completely against it

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Originally posted by UserChevy
I had an argument today with a friend about whether or not the Fried Liver is a reasonable opening. What are your thoughts on it?

For those of you who don't know it is 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7

Edits for spelling 🙂
I hear it ain't bad if you like to attack as White. A little iffy for Black, I guess.

My initiation to the Fried Liver (Fegatello) attack was my second simul game against a GM. I had Black and had no idea what I was doing. (I still don't, but that's beside the point.) I'd never even heard of the Fried Liver, and I accidently stumbled into it. I made the common beginner mistake of failing to play 7... Ke6 after White's 7.Qf3+. The GM fried my liver in very short order. I'm sure he was chuckling to himself, but to his credit, he was very respectful to me.

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There are better ways to go about winning that game w/o sacking your knight... d4 is one of them.

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Originally posted by ih8sens
There are better ways to go about winning that game w/o sacking your knight... d4 is one of them.
Fried liver is a ball buster for black to try to worm out of OTB after the Knight sac.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Fried liver is a ball buster for black to try to worm out of OTB after the Knight sac.
oh heck in OTB I play it too. CC I certainly don't though.

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Uh, can anyone tell me how to avoid the fried liver (as black)? other than not playing e4. if it's unavoidable, which I expect it might be as black, how do I move so as to not get killed by it?

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Originally posted by mrjonesvich321
Uh, can anyone tell me how to avoid the fried liver (as black)? other than not playing e4. if it's unavoidable, which I expect it might be as black, how do I move so as to not get killed by it?
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Play anything but Nf6 (i.e. Bc5)

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1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 f5!

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Originally posted by mrjonesvich321
Uh, can anyone tell me how to avoid the fried liver (as black)? other than not playing e4. if it's unavoidable, which I expect it might be as black, how do I move so as to not get killed by it?
Should be easy. Play the Petroff, Giocco Piano, Traxler, etc...

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Originally posted by mrjonesvich321
Uh, can anyone tell me how to avoid the fried liver (as black)? other than not playing e4. if it's unavoidable, which I expect it might be as black, how do I move so as to not get killed by it?
Black gets a very nice game if he or she is willing to sacrifice a pawn: 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 ed Na5 6 Bb5 c6 7 dc bc 8 Be2 (I'm doing this from memory, so I hope this isn't just my [typical] gibberish.) 🙂

I recently read somewhere that Nigel Short's comment on this position was something like, "Isn't Black just down a pawn here?"

Most theorists that I'm aware of think that Black has adequate compensation for the pawn.

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Originally posted by UserChevy
I had an argument today with a friend about whether or not the Fried Liver is a reasonable opening. What are your thoughts on it?

For those of you who don't know it is 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7

Edits for spelling 🙂
I always thought blac was horrible - - that he had to play 5. ...Na5 or lose. I once played the black side of the Fried Liver, and I'm convinced that I only saved it because my opponent was rated 150 beneath me!

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Originally posted by Dutch Defense
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 f5!
the f-pawn has AIDS

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Originally posted by ih8sens
There are better ways to go about winning that game w/o sacking your knight... d4 is one of them.
but the knight sac just looks cool and its sound... so why not?

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Originally posted by mrjonesvich321
Uh, can anyone tell me how to avoid the fried liver (as black)? other than not playing e4. if it's unavoidable, which I expect it might be as black, how do I move so as to not get killed by it?
pawn h6 to prevent the knight from advancing to set up the bishop-knight attack on your f7 pawn.