I stumbled across this book on NIC that is titled "An Aggressive Opening Repertoire for the Club Player". The recommendations are
1. e4 c5 2. f4
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. g4
1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4
1. e4 d6 2. d4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. f4
1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4, or 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4
and as Black, the Dragon and the Dutch Leningrad. Now I ask you, how can you cover all of this crap in 232 pages? Granted, it's hardcover, and the pages are normally larger on a hardcover, but even so, I have a book solely on the dragon, and it's longer than 232 pages. That is just silly.
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Maybe its just to introduce you to each of the openings...does it give recommendations on books for each opening it suggests?
I stumbled across this book on NIC that is titled "An Aggressive Opening Repertoire for the Club Player". The recommendations are
1. e4 c5 2. f4
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. g4
1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4
1. e4 d6 2. d4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. f4
1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4, or 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4
and as ...[text shortened]... so, I have a book solely on the dragon, and it's longer than 232 pages. That is just silly.
Originally posted by !~TONY~!when i think of an agressive sicilian as white id say morra gambit, and in the caro id say panov attack...
I stumbled across this book on NIC that is titled "An Aggressive Opening Repertoire for the Club Player". The recommendations are
1. e4 c5 2. f4
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. g4
1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4
1. e4 d6 2. d4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. f4
1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4, or 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4
and as ...[text shortened]... so, I have a book solely on the dragon, and it's longer than 232 pages. That is just silly.
youre right, a little odd here..
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Well you're right - you can't.
... Now I ask you, how can you cover all of this crap in 232 pages? ... That is just silly.
But that's like saying my little pocket dictionary is silly because it has fewer words in it than my big desktop version.
The two dictionaries are different solutions to different problems. Same is true of your repertoire book and individual monographs on each opening.
(incidentally, I think it's equally true to say you can't really cover the entire Dragon in a single book ... doesn't mean these books have no value).
Originally posted by irontigranI think the point is that you play e4 & f4 against everything and the similar pawn structures lead to common ideas (probably kingside attacks). Whether or not this works, I don't know. Tony, I would doubt that sidelines are covered very well or very deeply. Do note that the Dragon, being one of the sharpest lines around is bound to require more covereage than anything else.
when i think of an agressive sicilian as white id say morra gambit, and in the caro id say panov attack...
youre right, a little odd here..
Well I guess maybe I've reached a level where these books just irk me a little bit, and can't relate back to when they would be useful. To me though, it just seems like you shouldn't write a book unless you can do the material justice. For instance, how can you give a club player some incomplete knowledge of the Dragon? That's like handing them a weapon, but not giving them a safety course or something! 😀
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Yeah. Like giving someone a gun without telling them which end the bullet comes out of. 😞
Well I guess maybe I've reached a level where these books just irk me a little bit, and can't relate back to when they would be useful. To me though, it just seems like you shouldn't write a book unless you can do the material justice. For instance, how can you give a club player some incomplete knowledge of the Dragon? That's like handing them a weapon, but not giving them a safety course or something! 😀
Even more comical was a book written by the late GM Eduard Gufeld called "An Opening Repertoire for the Attacking Player." In the book, Gufeld provided a complete repertoire for both White and Black in only 160 pages! And he also suggested the Dragon against 1 e4!
Originally posted by zebanoi agree with you here, but it seems books like this dont link thoughts very well and only go into memorization stuff..
I think the point is that you play e4 & f4 against everything and the similar pawn structures lead to common ideas (probably kingside attacks). Whether or not this works, I don't know. Tony, I would doubt that sidelines are covered very well or very deeply. Do note that the Dragon, being one of the sharpest lines around is bound to require more covereage than anything else.
a book that got killed on silmans site was starting out: 1.e4! , the guy just bashes it... its kind of a funny review of how much goes wrong..
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Sounds good to me. My opening repertoire is very limited, to say the least, and I haven't got much time to fix that, as I have a very time consuming job and two kids. I could manage one 200 page opening book between now and Christmas. Won't I be better off reading this book than not?
I stumbled across this book on NIC that is titled "An Aggressive Opening Repertoire for the Club Player". The recommendations are
1. e4 c5 2. f4
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. g4
1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4
1. e4 d6 2. d4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. f4
1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4, or 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4
and as ...[text shortened]... so, I have a book solely on the dragon, and it's longer than 232 pages. That is just silly.
You'd think that, until you're playing in some tournament and realize that the author never gave a line vs. your opponents choice of move. Suddenly you realize it's in fact, a very good move. You never find the tricky response and 10 moves later you're shrugging to your friends as you pack up your set and walk out of the playing hall, completely embarassed.
Originally posted by d36366I suppose one could argue that adopting an opening repertoire from a book that is grossly incomplete is better than not having a repertoire at all. My suggested alternative, though, would be to learn a more solid opening like the Caro-Kann if your prep-time is limited. If you play a super-sharp opening like the Dragon without knowing a ton of specific lines then you might end up getting slaughtered fairly often. (Compare the number of pages in NCO devoted to the Caro-Kann as opposed to what you would need to know to face all of White's choices against the Sicilian.)
Sounds good to me. My opening repertoire is very limited, to say the least, and I haven't got much time to fix that, as I have a very time consuming job and two kids. I could manage one 200 page opening book between now and Christmas. Won't I be better off reading this book than not?
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Oh man...that is depressing!
You'd think that, until you're playing in some tournament and realize that the author never gave a line vs. your opponents choice of move. Suddenly you realize it's in fact, a very good move. You never find the tricky response and 10 moves later you're shrugging to your friends as you pack up your set and walk out of the playing hall, completely embarassed.