Hanging the French

Originally posted by zebano
A line I have struggled with recently is
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5. Bd2 Ne7 6. Nb5 when ... Bxd2+, Qxd2, 0-0, Nd6 seems excellent for white.

This is the line that I play with awesome results. 😀

Originally posted by !~TONY~!
This is the line that I play with awesome results. 😀

I've started playing Ne7 before c5 to give me more options.

Edited because I gave an impossible line...

There are no real holes, only responses which are more likely to take FD players out of their dark-square trenches and into less conventional or more open games. The KIA and the Reti Gambit seem very suited to that approach - oh, and someone played 4.b3 against me in the Advance the other day (still in progress), which I'm sure is dubious because it virtually invites Black to lock the centre where his light-squared deficiency is less important, but which is new and unsettling enough to me to take me out of my comfort zone. Psychology matters.

Originally posted by !~TONY~!
This is the line that I play with awesome results. 😀

I'd play it too, but the Classical is LAME. 😉

Originally posted by cmsMaster
I'd play it too, but the Classical is LAME. 😉

Thats a winawer...

Originally posted by zebano
Thats a winawer...

I know, but if black avoids it with ...Nf6 instead it's a classical, which is lame. 🙂

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1260694

look over that game, should give you some ideas. Trust me though, French defense is as solid as they come and still gives you good play to win. If you're looking to neutralize White's play, pick up the petroff.

Originally posted by cmsMaster
I know, but if black avoids it with ...Nf6 instead it's a classical, which is lame. 🙂

No way dude. 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. Bxe7 Qxe7 7. f4 trades off Black's good bishop and gives White good chances for attacks based on f4-f5, even Greek Gift ideas if Black goes short.

Originally posted by !~TONY~!
No way dude. 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. Bxe7 Qxe7 7. f4 trades off Black's good bishop and gives White good chances for attacks based on f4-f5, even Greek Gift ideas if Black goes short.

Hm, good point. 🙂 If 1.d4 doesn't fit my need I'll probably be trying this out against the French.

There the sac where instead of Bxe7 , white goes h4 :- It would be useful in blitz

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "New game"]
[Black "z00t"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "C13"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 Bxg5 7. hxg5 Qxg5 *

Originally posted by z00t
There the sac where instead of Bxe7 , white goes h4 :- It would be useful in blitz

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "New game"]
[Black "z00t"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "C13"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 Bxg5 7. hxg5 Qxg5 *

Yeah, I've seen that - seems interesting enough for me to consider.

Nah, those aren't any better

Originally posted by Zander 88
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1260694

look over that game, should give you some ideas. Trust me though, French defense is as solid as they come and still gives you good play to win. If you're looking to neutralize White's play, pick up the petroff.

Thanks a lot, I've actually been playing a number of blitz games in the Najdorf and French to see what I like better. I won a few more times in the Najdorf, but died very quickly in the Bg5 line. They are both good openings and fun to play. Making a decision will not be easy. Some people say the French is dull, but I've had no experience like that.

Here are my last 2 blitz games:

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Bd3 c5 6. c3 Nc6 7. Ne2 cxd4 8.

cxd4 f6 9. exf6 Nxf6 10. Nf3 Bd6 11. Bf4 O-O 12. O-O Bxf4 13. Nxf4 Ng4 14.

Qd2 Qd6 15. g3 e5 16. dxe5 Qh6 17. h3 g5 18. hxg4 gxf4 19. g5 Qh3 20. Nh4

fxg3 21. fxg3 Qxg3+ 22. Ng2 Bh3 23. Rf6 Nxe5 24. Bxh7+ Kxh7 25. Rh6+ Kg7 26.

Re1 Nf3+ {White resigns} 0-1 (first time I play against Nd2)

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1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. f4 c5 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. Be3 cxd4 8.

Nxd4 Bc5 9. Qd2 a6 10. O-O-O O-O 11. Qf2 Bxd4 12. Bxd4 Nxd4 13. Qxd4 b5 14.

Be2 Bb7 15. Ne4 dxe4 16. Qxd7 Qb6 17. Qd4 Qa5 18. a3 Rac8 19. Qb4 Qc7 20. c3

Bd5 21. Rd4 Rfd8 22. Rhd1 f6 23. a4 fxe5 24. fxe5 Qxe5 25. axb5 axb5 26. g3

Qf5 27. Bxb5 Ra8 28. c4 Ra1+ 29. Kd2 e3+ 30. Kc3 Rxd1 31. Rxd1 e2 32. Re1

Qf3+ 33. Kd4 Qe4+ 34. Kc3 Qe3+ 35. Kc2 Be4# {White checkmated} 0-1 (I got lucky because he blundered the opening)

I've lost and won many games in both openings, but none were dull.

BTW: I looked over the game and I think he went wrong with Nxd4 in the opening. Although, that wasn't the main mistake in the game.

Originally posted by exigentsky
Thanks a lot, I've actually been playing a number of blitz games in the Najdorf and French to see what I like better. I won a few more times in the Najdorf, but died very quickly in the Bg5 line. They are both good openings and fun to play. Making a decision will not be easy. Some people say the French is dull, but I've had no experience like that.

He ...[text shortened]... been played before castle and that Qc7 wasn't very good. But still a very interesting game.

You should know the Bg5 Najdorf line scores an outstanding....49% for white. Try the Poisoned Pawn.

Yes, but it scores much better when Black knows NO theory. 😉