Help in analyzing this game? It was drawn.

sonhouse

Fast and Curious

Only Chess

16 Nov 12

sonhouse

Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined: 28 Dec 04
Moves: 53368

16 Nov 12

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1.	e4	e5
2.	f4	exf4
3.	Ng1f3	d6
4.	d4	g5
5.	h4	f6
6.	Nf3xg5	fxg5
7.	Qd1h5	Ke8d7
8.	hxg5	Bf8e7
9.	Bc1xf4	Qd8f8
10.	g3	Nb8c6
11.	d5	Nc6a5
12.	b4	Ng8f6
13.	gxf6	Be7xf6
14.	c3	Qf8e7
15.	Bf1d3	Na5c4
16.	Bd3xc4	Qe7xe4
17.	Qh5e2	Qe4xh1
18.	Ke1d2	Rh8e8
19.	Qe2f2	Kd7d8
20.	Bc4f1	Qh1xd5
21.	Kd2c1	Bc8f5
22.	Qf2d2	Qd5c6
23.	Bf1g2	Bf5e4
24.	Bg2xe4	Qc6xe4
25.	Bf4xd6	Qe4e1
26.	Qd2xe1	Re8xe1
27.	Kc1d2	Re1g1
28.	Bd6f4	Kd8d7
29.	a4	Ra8e8
30.	Kd2c2	Re8e2
31.	Kc2b3	Kd7c6
32.	b5	Kc6b6
33.	a5	Kb6xb5
34.	Nb1a3	Kb5xa5
35.	Ra1xg1	c6
36.	Na3c4	Ka5a6
37.	Kb3b4	b5
38.	Rg1a1	Ka6b7
39.	Nc4a5	Kb7b6
40.	Na5b3	a6
41.	Ra1c1	Bf6e7
42.	Nb3c5	Be7xc5
43.	Kb4b3	Bc5e3
44.	Bf4xe3	Re2xe3
45.	Rc1h1	Re3xg3
46.	Rh1xh7	Rg3g1
47.	Rh7h8	c5
48.	Rh8b8	Kb6c7
49.	Rb8a8	Kc7b7
50.	Ra8f8	Rg1g7
51.	Rf8f5	Rg7c7
52.	Rf5f6	a5
53.	Rf6e6	Rc7c6
54.	Re6e7	Kb7b6
55.	Re7e8	a4
56.	Kb3a3	Kb6a5
57.	Re8a8	Rc6a6
58.	Ra8c8	b4
59.	Ka3a2	Ka5b5
60.	Rc8b8	Ra6b6
61.	c4	Kb5a5
62.	Rb8c8	b3
63.	Ka2a3	b2
64.	Rc8a8	Rb6a6
65.	Ra8xa6	Ka5xa6
66.	Ka3xb2	Ka6b6
67.	Kb2a2	Kb6a6
68.	Ka2b2	Ka6b6
69.	Kb2a2	Kb6a6
70.	Ka2b2	Ka6b6
71.	Kb2a2

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queenabber

Joined: 22 Oct 10
Moves: 1975

17 Nov 12

Originally posted by sonhouse
[pgn][Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2012.09.26"]
[EndDate "2012.11.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "sonhouse"]
[Black "willibrordus"]
[WhiteRating "1648"]
[BlackRating "1356"]
[WhiteElo "1648"]
[BlackElo "1356"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "9553654"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Ng1f3 d6 4. d4 g5 5. h4 f6 6. Nf3xg5 fxg5 7. Q ...[text shortened]... 8. Ka2b2 Ka6b6 69. Kb2a2 Kb6a6 70. Ka2b2 Ka6b6 71. Kb2a2 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

looked at it for few seconds... seemed drawn

sonhouse

Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined: 28 Dec 04
Moves: 53368

17 Nov 12

Originally posted by queenabber
looked at it for few seconds... seemed drawn

Pretty much what I said but there were blunders on both sides, wondered what each one of us could have done better?

hunterknox

Hopeless romantic

The sticks

Joined: 01 Oct 06
Moves: 41291

17 Nov 12

15. Qe2 and finally take that knight out on the a file?

RJHinds

The Near Genius

Fort Gordon

Joined: 24 Jan 11
Moves: 13644

17 Nov 12

1 edit

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Originally posted by sonhouse
[pgn][Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2012.09.26"]
[EndDate "2012.11.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "sonhouse"]
[Black "willibrordus"]
[WhiteRating "1648"]
[BlackRating "1356"]
[WhiteElo "1648"]
[BlackElo "1356"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "9553654"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Ng1f3 d6 4. d4 g5 5. h4 f6 6. Nf3xg5 fxg5 7. Q ...[text shortened]... 8. Ka2b2 Ka6b6 69. Kb2a2 Kb6a6 70. Ka2b2 Ka6b6 71. Kb2a2 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

I haven't had much experience with the King's Gambit. The first time it came up on RHP I had been looking at "My 60 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer. The 18th game had Fischer playing Black against Spassky in a King's Gambit opening. After Fischer's third move, he writes the following:

This loss spurred me to look for a "refutation" of the King's Gambit, which I published in the American Chess Quarterly, Vol. 1 (1961), No. 1. The right move is 3...P-Q3!

This is now known as the Fischer Defense and is what your opponent played and what I played in the 34th game I finished on RHP, which I won. It is GameId 8325850. Game 8325850 However, my opponent played 4.Bc4 instead of your 4.d4 and we do not want Black to win anyway, since you are playing White.

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1.	e4	e5
2.	f4	exf4
3.	Ng1f3	d6
4.	d4	g5
5.	h4	f6
6.	Nf3xg5	fxg5
7.	Qd1h5	Ke8d7
8.	hxg5	Bf8e7
9.	g3	fxg3
10.	Bh3	Kc6
11.	d5	Kb6
12.	Be3	c5
13.	dxc6	Kxc6
14.	Bxc8	Qxc8
15.	Bd4

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sonhouse

Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined: 28 Dec 04
Moves: 53368

18 Nov 12

Originally posted by hunterknox
15. Qe2 and finally take that knight out on the a file?

I think you mean 16 Q e2 which would have been better since it saves the rook but the knight gets away at b6.

jcmessy

Joined: 26 Aug 11
Moves: 10242

18 Nov 12

Help in Analyzing this game? It was drawn.

Question: Where is the link to this game?
So many mistakes, and nothing constructive.

After 31. Kc2-b3..
31.. Re2-e1 is the finishing touch. Since 32. Kc2 is reputed by 32..Bxc3; 33. Ra2 Bxb4 is totally
hopeless for White. 2 pawns down plus Rook vs. Knight fight.

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Game # ?? ( no game link..)

RJHinds

The Near Genius

Fort Gordon

Joined: 24 Jan 11
Moves: 13644

18 Nov 12

Originally posted by jcmessy
Help in Analyzing this game? It was drawn.

Question: Where is the link to this game?
So many mistakes, and nothing constructive.

After 31. Kc2-b3..
31.. Re2-e1 is the finishing touch. Since 32. Kc2 is reputed by 32..Bxc3; 33. Ra2 Bxb4 is totally
hopeless for White. 2 pawns down plus Rook vs. Knight fight.

[fen]8/pppk3p/5b2/8/PP3B2/1KP3P1/4r3/RN4r1 b -- 31[/fen]
Game # ?? ( no game link..)

You are helping the wrong side. We want White to win.

GameId "9553654" Game 9553654

RJHinds

The Near Genius

Fort Gordon

Joined: 24 Jan 11
Moves: 13644

18 Nov 12

1 edit

Originally posted by sonhouse
I think you mean 16 Q e2 which would have been better since it saves the rook but the knight gets away at b6.

No. He means 15.Qe2 then if 15...Re8 16.bxa5 or if 15...Nc4 16.Qxc4

Also 17.Qe2 as you know was a big mistake. Either 17.Be2 or Kf2 is better.

jcmessy

Joined: 26 Aug 11
Moves: 10242

18 Nov 12

But the Player on the White side ( Who Posted this Game ) has 292 Points more than
the Black Side. So obviously, Black was inferior here. 🙂
You don't Post an embarrassing game like this? It don't help the viewer at all.
Game 9553654

RJHinds

The Near Genius

Fort Gordon

Joined: 24 Jan 11
Moves: 13644

18 Nov 12

Originally posted by jcmessy
But the Player on the White side ( Who Posted this Game ) has [b]292 Points more than
the Black Side. So obviously, Black was inferior here. 🙂
You don't Post an embarrassing game like this? It don't help the viewer at all.
Game 9553654[/b]

Whatever.

RJHinds

The Near Genius

Fort Gordon

Joined: 24 Jan 11
Moves: 13644

18 Nov 12

Originally posted by sonhouse
[pgn][Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2012.09.26"]
[EndDate "2012.11.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "sonhouse"]
[Black "willibrordus"]
[WhiteRating "1648"]
[BlackRating "1356"]
[WhiteElo "1648"]
[BlackElo "1356"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "9553654"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Ng1f3 d6 4. d4 g5 5. h4 f6 6. Nf3xg5 fxg5 7. Q ...[text shortened]... 8. Ka2b2 Ka6b6 69. Kb2a2 Kb6a6 70. Ka2b2 Ka6b6 71. Kb2a2 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

After 36...Ka6 you missed a mate with 37.Ra1+ Kb5 38.Ra5#

tim88

Joined: 28 Dec 11
Moves: 16268

18 Nov 12

i think black would of won

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IDrinkYourMilkshake

Joined: 14 Nov 12
Moves: 380

18 Nov 12

Originally posted by tim88
i think black would of won

[fen] 8/8/k7/2p5/p1P5/8/K7/8 w - - 0 1[/fen][fen]8/8/k7/2p5/p1P5/K7/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen][fen]8/8/8/k1p5/p1P5/K7/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen][fen] 8/8/8/k1p5/p1P5/8/K7/8 w - - 0 1[/fen][fen]8/8/8/2p5/pkP5/8/K7/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

But that depends on white making the Ka3 move, which they didnt do because they knew it would have put the in a losing position. Hence the peek-a-boo behind the pawn.

w - Ka2-a3???

tim88

Joined: 28 Dec 11
Moves: 16268

18 Nov 12

Originally posted by IDrinkYourMilkshake
But that depends on white making the Ka3 move, which they didnt do because they knew it would have put the in a losing position. Hence the peek-a-boo behind the pawn.

w - Ka2-a3???

ok yes it's a draw 4sure

EVENT	Open invite
SITE	http://www.redhotpawn.com
DATE	2012.09.26
ROUND	?
WHITE	sonhouse
BLACK	willibrordus
RESULT	1/2-1/2
WHITEELO	1648
BLACKELO	1356