i am more and more playing against people who open with e4, bc4, and then qf3, threating mate on f7. i alway see it and think its a rather bad opening myself, but is there one good way to open against that to take advantage of the queen being out, or the bad development of pieces, or accidentally forgeting that you knight is pinned on that mate, or anything?
Originally posted by opsoccergurl11If you've already played e5 on your first move, simply follow with Nf6, Bc5 and O-O and voila! you're pieces are developed, your King is safe and his Queen is sitting uselessly where his Knight should be. You do have to watch out for early threats, but if your reasonably careful you should be fine.
i am more and more playing against people who open with e4, bc4, and then qf3, threating mate on f7. i alway see it and think its a rather bad opening myself, but is there one good way to open against that to take advantage of the queen being out, or the bad development of pieces, or accidentally forgeting that you knight is pinned on that mate, or anything?
Howdy clan member!
1. e4 ...c6
2. Bc4 ...d5
Problem solved. :-)
Black gains time when the bishop has to move away. If white gets cute and plays 3.exd5 then you play 3 ...cxd5. 4.Bb5+ then 4 ...Bd7. And Black has 2 center pawns and is just fine.
And no1maruader's plan works perfectly too.
Originally posted by opsoccergurl11If 1. e4 e5 2. Qf3
i am more and more playing against people who open with e4, bc4, and then qf3, threating mate on f7. i alway see it and think its a rather bad opening myself, but is there one good way to open against that to take advantage of the qu ...[text shortened]... ly forgeting that you knight is pinned on that mate, or anything?
2...Nf6 guards f7 and if 3. Bc4 there is still no need to worry about f7.
On the other hand
Some people play 1.e4 e5 2. Qh5?
And after 3...Nc6 to guard the e5 pawn 4. Bc4 to threaten mate
(4...Nf6?? is a terrible blunder because of Qxf7++)
So after 4...g6 5. Qf3 (to once again threaten mate) Nf6 blocks it and the queen has lost time being developed prematurely.
2. Qf3 or 2. Qh5 is almost the same scenario to deal with. Hope this helps!
-TT
It's shocking to me the sheer number of people who play that stuff. It's harder to deal with for ordinary patzers than all those glib pronouncements by grandmasters seem to suggest, largely, I think, because of the tactical threats that an early-developed queen can make.
I've decided that my theory against early queen development is "so what if I drop a pawn or two? I'll have compensation if I just begin an attack in the process."
I've got a game going on right now where, in missing a threat associated with my opponent's early queen-development, I've lost a pawn. Specifically, the c pawn. Did I mention that my opponent has castled queenside? Obviously, I'm not going to point to the game or comment further, except to say that I really don't object to having an open file on my opponent's king, not one little bit...
[i]Some people play 1.e4 e5 2. Qh5?Gambit response:
And after 3...Nc6 to guard the e5 pawn 4. Bc4 to threaten mate
(4...Nf6?? is a terrible blunder because of Qxf7++)
So after 4...g6 5. Qf3 (to once again threaten mate) Nf6 blocks it and the queen has lost time being developed prematurely.
TT[/b]
Game 590798
Of course, in that particular game, I would've done well to play Re1 instead of f4?
Against beginners, though, I would be more than happy to give up a pawn to go ahead on development.
Originally posted by lucifershammerEhh...I am not confident enough in my abilities. I have stuck to...
Gambit response:
Game 590798
Of course, in that particular game, I would've done well to play Re1 instead of f4?
Against beginners, though, I would be more than happy to give up a pawn to go ahead on development.
1.e4 e5 2.Qh5? Nc6 3.Bc4 g6 4. Qf3 Nf6
...and so on and so forth. I just like it better.
-TT
Originally posted by paultopiaQ.E.D. Game 624874
I've got a game going on right now where, in missing a threat associated with my opponent's early queen-development, I've lost a pawn. Specifically, the c pawn. Did I mention that my opponent has castled queenside? Obviously, I'm ...[text shortened]... having an open file on my opponent's king, not one little bit...
(Yea, technically it's still going on, but in view of mate in one, Bb8 Qxb7# or Ka7 Qxb7#, I think it's safe to post)
(If I were in his position, I'da probably accepted the knight... still would've hurt, but perhaps not so much)
Originally posted by opsoccergurl11Game 635349 I'm noticing that myself... Usually its weaker players whose goal is to mate in the opening... However I have even seen some stronger players use 1.)e4 e5 2.) Qh5 of course never with anyone at there own level.... In the game that I am in now black enjoys a lead in development and stands better and has successfully blocked white's mating threats.... If you are having troubles defending against 2.)Qh5? you should take more time in those games and just try to stop your opponents threats first.... which will usually give you a lead in development as well
i am more and more playing against people who open with e4, bc4, and then qf3, threating mate on f7. i alway see it and think its a rather bad opening myself, but is there one good way to open against that to take advantage of the qu ...[text shortened]... ly forgeting that you knight is pinned on that mate, or anything?