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1.  TimmyBx
TacticsTime.com
20 Nov '11 23:48
This was an interesting thread on reddit.com

The poster asked: How many different ending positions exist where white delivers a checkmate on his third move? To get you started: there are 4 different ending positions where black delivers a checkmate on his second move. Can't be too hard, can it?

It took me several tries, and I kept finding new ones.

If you want to see my answer and analysis, I posted it on my chess blog at: http://tacticstime.com/?p=1439

I suggest trying it yourself! It was a lot of fun actually ðŸ™‚

Cheers,
Timmy
2. 21 Nov '11 00:17
I think you missed the most obvious one:
3.  TimmyBx
TacticsTime.com
21 Nov '11 00:27 / 1 edit
Yep! You are right, I did!! lol ðŸ™‚ Thanks!! I updated my list to include it ðŸ™‚
4.  yosiman
Genius
21 Nov '11 04:18

Also, there are a few variations where you move the c pawn first, move the queen to c2 and then g6 mate.
5.  TimmyBx
TacticsTime.com
21 Nov '11 04:35
Thanks yosiman! I used your ideas to find 5 more :-)
6. 21 Nov '11 21:07
While you are solving funny psudo chess puzzles try this: Whats the shortest stalemate you can construct - Don't spoil the fun with google ;-).
7. 21 Nov '11 23:24
Originally posted by Kaoslos
While you are solving funny psudo chess puzzles try this: Whats the shortest stalemate you can construct - Don't spoil the fun with google ;-).
I'd be really impressed if anyone gets this without Googling the answer.
8.  Marinkatomb
wotagr8game
22 Nov '11 01:07
Originally posted by Erekose
I'd be really impressed if anyone gets this without Googling the answer.
I got it first time but thought i'd check it on Youtube... ðŸ˜‰

9. 22 Nov '11 11:22 / 1 edit
The best way to catch all the 3 move mates is to use the Help Mate
feature which Fritz has. Start from the initial position. that should list them all.
10. 22 Nov '11 12:48
Originally posted by greenpawn34
The best way to catch all the 3 move mates is to use the [b]Help Mate
feature which Fritz has. Start from the initial position. that should list them all.[/b]
11.  TimmyBx
TacticsTime.com
22 Nov '11 15:41
Originally posted by greenpawn34
The best way to catch all the 3 move mates is to use the [b]Help Mate
feature which Fritz has. Start from the initial position. that should list them all.[/b]
That will list all of the mates that there are, but not give you the unique positions.

For example the mates after.

1. e3 f6 2. e4 g5 3. Qh5#

is the same position as after

1. e4 g5 2. Qf3 f6 3. Qh5#

but Fritz would list these as different mates.

But you are right, it is a good way to check an answer, just like putting a tactics puzzle into Fritz is the best way to check the solution to a chess tactics problem ðŸ™‚

Or getting in a car, and driving 26.2 miles is the best way to "run" a marathon lol

The fritz "Show all legal moves" can help also. For example the first time I tried this, I missed the tempo killing moves like Ba6 that you would never play in a real game, because they just hang a piece. You have to "think outside the box" to find them all.