How to learn and not cheat

How to learn and not cheat

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Originally posted by ChessMom
I understand the rationale for using databases. I understand the bit about the player having to make the ultimate decision about what move to play.

But unfortunately, to me, the Starry-Eyed Idealist, it still looks like you're just using the "Hint" function. I can win against Chesster the Rat if I play the entire game taking the Hint function's adv ...[text shortened]... Pocket Fritz logged onto an online database through your cell phone?

Or are you?





ChessMom, if you really want that "clash of the titans", 2 intelectuals staring each other down, the chess board a medium for their war, then try out over the board play. Your profile says you are from the U.S., so check out the United States chess Federation (www.uschess.org) and find tournaments in your area. I know my associate often has seperate beginner sections for those who havn't played before. In these tournaments you may access nothing other than your mind. This is how Fisher, Kasparov, Karpov, Morphy and the other greats competed.

However correspondence chess has always always always allowed references to books and latter to databases, but never a kibitz from another person or thing that can evaluate the board.

Finally, please reaalize that many people here don't use databases. Personally, I only use them when learning a new opening, I know my old openings so well, that I don't usually need a book. However, I would never try anything new if it wern't permissible to yuse references.

If you really want internet chess play w/o any help, try FICS, PlayChess, ICC or any other non-correspondence site.

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Originally posted by zebano
ChessMom, if you really want that "clash of the titans", 2 intelectuals staring each other down, the chess board a medium for their war, then try out over the board play. Your profile says you are from the U.S., so check out the United States chess Federation (www.uschess.org) and find tournaments in your area. I know my associate often has seperate beginne ...[text shortened]... internet chess play w/o any help, try FICS, PlayChess, ICC or any other non-correspondence site.
I doubt she will be reading your post... Her last post was on Jan 10, and she has never made a move here.

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Originally posted by ChessMom

And chess rewards people who are good at memorizing things.
I see that my previous post may not have been necessary as you understand the way things stand. Your statement above however is false. I believe chess rewards those who recognize patterns. Memorization helps you in the opening and the basic endings only. Beyond that, it is of very little worth.

z

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Originally posted by ChessMom

Why won't anybody answer this question that I keep asking: If using databases and books during game play is so "okay", why aren't you allowed to use them during tournaments?
The answer is simple and has been stated many times. You cannot in Over the board chess, this is not over the board chess. OTB and CC are 2 sperate games.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
I doubt she will be reading your post... Her last post was on Jan 10, and she has never made a move here.
Ahh. An interesting thread on the first page and I spent an hour reading all that from January? Nuts

The RudeΒ©

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Originally posted by zebano
OTB and CC are 2 sperate games.
Your forum title is really appropriate........besides that why do you waste your time answering to an user who never made a move here and disappeared a year ago?

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Originally posted by zebano
Ahh. An interesting thread on the first page and I spent an hour reading all that from January? Nuts
Gotcha!!

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Originally posted by zebano
Ahh. An interesting thread on the first page and I spent an hour reading all that from January? Nuts
and me. :'(

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Gotcha!!

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Still the forum archaeologist, I see. Exy's comments are interesting to read in retrospect...

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Still the forum archaeologist, I see. Exy's comments are interesting to read in retrospect...
Yep. When certain bones need to be on display, I try to dig them up. TragicRain's tirade in Thread 58778 sent me digging this time.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Yep. When certain bones need to be on display, I try to dig them up. TragicRain's tirade in Thread 58778 sent me digging this time.
Yes, I guessed so. That thread is tragic.

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Originally posted by zebano
Ahh. An interesting thread on the first page and I spent an hour reading all that from January? Nuts
me also. what a waste of time. I asked a similar question a while back, and was told it was ok to use databases. To my surprise they do not help very much at all, at my level no-one is following 'the main line' of any opening, usually by move three its all out the window.

Oh well, it was better than actually working at work, maybe.

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Originally posted by nonnymoose
I've decided to get more serious about my chess play. I'm currently around 1300 and I desire to be around 1600 (as my next goal). Mind you, I'm not worried about my rating but my chess playing. This is why I don't take games that time out when I'm losing them...cuz I'm playing for the joy of playing, not to boost my rating.

That said, I'm wondering software that will analyze your games and suggest areas of study?

TIA,

Nonny
Hey guys,

This fella is right. Don't cheat. It's no good.

It just hurts your chess, your brain, pride, honour and last but not least self respect.

A sincere advice from an ol' G. πŸ˜‰

Gino

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Originally posted by GinoJ
Hey guys,

This fella is right. Don't cheat. It's no good.

It just hurts your chess, your brain, pride, honour and last but not least self respect.

A sincere advice from an ol' G. πŸ˜‰

Gino
Who said anything about cheating?