Originally posted by Ramiri15Now lets see! The tournament commenced July 2006, I was only rated 1505 when I entered it and it was only the 3rd tournament I entered having only joined the site in June 2006.
They are when a player 2000+ wins a 1500 - 1600 banded one.
Since then my rating has increased which surely is to be expected of someone who is winning.
I did not engineer my rating so I could enter this tournament and had no idea where my rating would end up so why should I be ashamed of entering it and winning it if I can.
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Originally posted by Dragon FireI realize that, but clearly you are and were a far superior player than those for whom the tournament was designed. It wasn't designed for a player of your caliber to win it, and it's unfair to those who have been playing for almost a year and deserve a shot at winning. Certainly a 1500 - 1600 banded tournament victory means very little to you, while to someone around that strength it is indicative of a very strong performance.
Now lets see! The tournament commenced July 2006, I was only rated 1505 when I entered it and it was only the 3rd tournament I entered having only joined the site in June 2006.
Since then my rating has increased which surely is to be expected of someone who is winning.
I did not engineer my rating so I could enter this tournament and had no idea where my rating would end up so why should I be ashamed of entering it and winning it if I can.
EDIT: I see you already had no problem taking a victory in a 1450 - 1550 banded tournament 😞.
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Originally posted by Ramiri15No problem. A sweet victory it was too.
I realize that, but clearly you are and were a far superior player than those for whom the tournament was designed. It wasn't designed for a player of your caliber to win it, and it's unfair to those who have been playing for almost a year and deserve a shot at winning. Certainly a 1500 - 1600 banded tournament victory means very little to you, while to s ...[text shortened]... EDIT: I see you already had no problem taking a victory in a 1450 - 1550 banded tournament 😞.
... but I was knocked out of Tournament 1186, a 1700 to 1900 banded tournament when my score of 18 was beaten by 21. There are still 2 players >2000 playing here.
... and I was knocked out of Tournament 1185, a 1600 to 1700 banded tournement when my score of 12 was beaten by 13. There is still a player graded 2026 in this.
It happens all the time, improving players achieve victories.
Mind you I achieved a victory in Tournament 1160 and Tournament 1196 where one of my opponents was an engine and engines are much stronger than me. My success (so far) in the tournament you mention has been far from easy and there is no guarantee I can win it.
Originally posted by Dragon FireThe difference is that you were not an "improving player" at the time; you were ranked 1500 with a true strength of around 1900+. This is a much different case than someone who joins a tournament with a playing strength at around the level of the tournament, then over time improves his playing strength to beyond that level. Obviously then you didn't know what your rating on this server would be, but I bet it quickly became apparent to you that you were simply in another league of play with respect to the others in the tournament.
It happens all the time, improving players achieve victories.
My success (so far) in the tournament you mention has been far from easy and there is no guarantee I can win it.
Also, just because others do it doesn't make it right, just as having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.
Originally posted by Dragon Firenot to mention that it's almost impossible to win a group and stay within the band. on par performance just won't cut it, you most likely need to perform at least +100-200 to get through in the first place, even without improving your chess otherwise. so in the round two in a 1500-tournament you'll have 1700's, and to qualify to 3rd round you'll need to make a killing against them, so the ratings get higher again.
It happens all the time, improving players achieve victories.
so when you finally reach the final round, maybe a year or two later, there will be only those left who could raise to the occasion. sure there always is someone who probably was somewhat underrated in the beginning, but the others will have raised their standard hundreds of points as well. there's no tournament wins for the average performance.
I'm currently playing in a 1600-1699 banded, where in the final round all but one player range from 1800-2150, and I don't know about the others, but I'll be damned if I'll let the highest rated player just take the win.
Originally posted by wormwoodThere is a difference between starting a banded tournament, having your playing strength within the band then improving, and entering a banded tournament with your rating strength within the band but far behind your playing strength. Dragon Fire stated he didn't know when he began the tournament, but now it's sickeningly obvious that he's about 400 - 500 points better than the players he will be playing in the final round. What kind of victory is that?
not to mention that it's almost impossible to win a group and stay within the band. on par performance just won't cut it, you most likely need to perform at least +100-200 to get through in the first place, even without improving your chess otherwise. so in the round two in a 1500-tournament you'll have 1700's, and to qualify to 3rd round you'll need to mak ...[text shortened]... the others, but I'll be damned if I'll let the highest rated player just take the win.
Originally posted by KorchRather than butting in as per usual you will observe that I responded to cms stating yep to the question and my response was inferring that he had not in fact moved but Rahimk had.
You`re wrong. After vacation he made his 28th and 29th move.
I at no time referred to the vaccation period (more know to us as in hiding period) but in order to attempt a oneupmanship you required to dig deeper than the facts, as per usual
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Originally posted by MctaytoWhen he made that post he has moved and it was Rahim`s turn. So please relax and watch their game.
Rather than butting in as per usual you will observe that I responded to cms stating yep to the question and my response was inferring that he had not in fact moved but Rahimk had.
I at no time referred to the vaccation period (more know to us as in hiding period) but in order to attempt a oneupmanship you required to dig deeper than the facts, as per usual
Originally posted by Mctaytoquit acting smart
Rather than butting in as per usual you will observe that I responded to cms stating yep to the question and my response was inferring that he had not in fact moved but Rahimk had.
I at no time referred to the vaccation period (more know to us as in hiding period) but in order to attempt a oneupmanship you required to dig deeper than the facts, as per usual
and Korch is right, cms did move, otherwise Rahim wouldn't have been able to 🙄