Interesting Carlsen draw with the Dragon vs Anand

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07 Jan '13 18:48

Paul Leggett
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08 Jan '13 16:56
Originally posted by Kepler
Storey now has a book out in pdf form that deals with the white version of the Sniper. 1. g3 2. Bg2 3. c4. From what I have seen of it, it would be better to play 1. g3 and then 2. c4 against anything but 1. ... d5 then follow Tony Kosten's ideas in his book on the English. That is what Storey does except he shoves Bg2 in before c4, giving black other resou ...[text shortened]... .

Chess players are indeed a funny bunch, as a quick perusal of these forums will reveal.
I just started a game a few days ago with the idea of reversing things.

In my mind, it is to the Reti what the Modern is to the Pirc in some respects. It's a little simplistic to think like that, but my chess tends to improve when I apply "simple".

I still have a backlog of books I am playing through, so if he has a second one it will be some time before I could get to it.
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08 Jan '13 17:07
The final position in the Anand - Carlsen game is known to theory.
Indeed the whole sequence of moves leading up to it is (or was) part
of the opening rep of the Azerbaijani GM. Gadir Guseinov

Paul is correct. the backward e-pawn on the open file would have had the old
pre-1920's masters licking their lips but look again. Read the board.
There are two backward pawns on open files and that weak c2 pawn is enough
to tie down White. In the 1920's the hyper-moderns led by Nimzovitch proved
you could play the so called 'ugly moves' if there were dynamics in the position.
(counter play to you and me.)

R. Mamedov (2617) - G.Guseinov (2625) Turkey Ch.2008

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1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Bc4 O-O 8. Bb3 d6 9. f3 Bd7 10. Qd2 Nxd4 11. Bxd4 b5 12. a4 b4 13. Nd5 Nxd5 14. Bxg7 {A slight deviation from the Anand-Carlsen game but it transposes back into their game.} 14... Kxg7 15. exd5 Qa5 16. Qd4+ Kg8 17. O-O Rac8 {We are back with the Anand and Carlsen game.} 18. Rfe1 Rfe8 19. Kh1 Qc5 20. Qh4 {Here Vishy and Magnus agreed their draw. This game continued.} 20... e5 {Now dxe6 ep had been tried in the past but it produced nothing. White feints a Kingside attack but Black can handle it.} 21. Re4 a5 22. Qh6 f6 23. Rf1 Qa7 24. Rh4 Bf5 {Defending h7 and hitting c2.} 25. Qd2 {The game agreed drawn here.}
RJHinds
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09 Jan '13 05:22
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
LOL, he harbours some delusions of grandeur? Actually his idea was not that original, International master Alexander Bangiev suggested the moves ...g7, ...Bg7 and ...c5 as a repertoire for black against everything white plays ages ago. Charlie sounds as if he rocked a few boats, oh chess players and their egos! cant live with or without them 🙂
I think you must mean ...g6. not ...g7. Just saying. 😏
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09 Jan '13 05:32
Originally posted by greenpawn34
The final position in the Anand - Carlsen game is known to theory.
Indeed the whole sequence of moves leading up to it is (or was) part
of the opening rep of the Azerbaijani GM. Gadir Guseinov

[fen]r4rk1/p2bpp1p/3p2p1/q2P4/Pp1Q4/1B3P2/1PP3PP/R4RK1 b - - 0 17[/fen]
Paul is correct. the backward e-pawn on the open file would have had the old
pre-1 ...[text shortened]... 1 Qa7 24. Rh4 Bf5 {Defending h7 and hitting c2.} 25. Qd2 {The game agreed drawn here.}[/pgn]
I guess the Holy Bible proves true again.

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

(Ecclesiastes 1:9 NKJV)
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09 Jan '13 08:01
Originally posted by RJHinds
I guess the Holy Bible proves true again.

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

(Ecclesiastes 1:9 NKJV)
I'm pretty sure your the first douchebag trying to pass himself off as a chess player under the name RJHinds.
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09 Jan '13 09:161 edit
Originally posted by Paul Leggett
Hi all,

Normally a 19 move draw would not be interesting, but this one was an exception for me. I found this in Charlie Storey's The Sniper.

What interested me is that Carlsen plays a series of VERY non-stereotyped moves in the Dragon, and emerges with a very equal position against the World Champion.

As a long-time Dragon player (o Champion, so I'd call it a success.} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
9.Bc4 is considered inferior to O-O-O because the bishop just gets traded off. I would like to see how Magnus would play against someone that knew the best moves for white against the dragon and see if he could still get a draw. I think I remember reading that Bobby Fischer had busted the dragon.
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09 Jan '13 09:44
Originally posted by tomtom232
I'm pretty sure your the first douchebag trying to pass himself off as a chess player under the name RJHinds.
Numbnuts, like you, always miss the important points. 😏
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09 Jan '13 10:02
Originally posted by RJHinds
I guess the Holy Bible proves true again.

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

(Ecclesiastes 1:9 NKJV)
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