21 Dec '11 06:37>
not a pretty game but an enjoyable one..
could i have closed it out sooner(i was black)
could i have closed it out sooner(i was black)
Originally posted by hempster2..Be6 is a bad move on principle, it blocks the white bishop in, blocks the d-pawn from advancing to claim the center. Two moves later you moved the Be6 to c5....well why not do that straight away? I've only ever seen a master play such a move once, and that player was Tal (who was World champion at the time). As a general rule, neither bishop should ever be placed in front of a central pawn. In ten years of playing i have never seen a position where this move is correct. The only exception i can think of is in the English opening, where white places his black bishop on e3, but this only happens when the white bishop is fianchettoed on g2 and white has already castled.
not a pretty game but an enjoyable one..[pgn]1. e4 e5 2. Ng1f3 Bf8d6 3. Bf1c4 Ng8f6 4. Nf3g5 O-O 5. d3 h6 6. Ng5xf7 Rf8xf7 7. c3 b5 8. Bc4xb5 a6 9. Bb5c4 Bd6c5 10. Qd1b3 d5 11. exd5 Qd8d6 12. O-O Nb8d7 13. g3 Ra8b8 14. Qb3c2 Nf6g4 15. b4 Bc5a7 16. a4 Bc8b7 17. Nb1d2 Qd6f8 18. Bc4a2 Rf7xf2 19. d4 exd4 20. Ba2b1 Nd7f6 21. Qc2g6 dxc3 22. Bb1a2 Rf2xh2 23. Rf1f2 ...[text shortened]... d4e4 Qa3e3 34. Ke4f5 Rb8f8 35. Kf5g6 0-1[/pgn]
could i have closed it out sooner(i was black)
Originally posted by hempsterhttp://www.shredderchess.com/online-chess/online-databases/opening-database.html
hmmm ...its a move i do frequently..dont know why but it seems to work for me..but thanks i will look at making the full move in future
Originally posted by Caesius"With 0-0, Rfe8, Bf8 and finally d5 in mind, if allowed. Also, if Bxc6, then dxc6 and Bishop comes into play easily."
[pgn]1.b3 e5 2.Bb2 Nc6 3.e3 Nf6 4.Bb5 Bd6 {With 0-0, Rfe8, Bf8 and finally d5 in mind, if allowed. Also, if Bxc6, then dxc6 and Bishop comes into play easily.} [/pgn]
Sveshnikov and Gurevich played this line as Black. But, of course, it's an exception. In my opinion, Bd6 in Open Game is objectively bad.
Originally posted by MarinkatombI'm not sure about this. The classical dragon variation of the Sicilian defence featured Be6
2..Bd6 is a bad move on principle.....
Originally posted by Marinkatomb
"With 0-0, Rfe8, Bf8 and finally d5 in mind, if allowed. Also, if Bxc6, then dxc6 and Bishop comes into play easily."
All the while white is free to take advantage of blacks complete lack of control over c4-c5-d5-e4 and e5. Who won the game? I'd be very surprised if black won, white would have to blunder quite badly i feel. Using this sort of thing as ...[text shortened]... ar the game to a draw out of fear...i can't see white realistically getting beaten though...
Originally posted by greenpawn34Ha ha wow someone actually studied one of my games. Happy it made you learn something. Hit me up if you ever want some explanation for a move or idea I had.
Here is a wonderful wee game played on here where White exploits the move
2..Bd6 in a very instructive manner.
iznogood - Cappy02067 RHP 2010
[pgn]
[Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2008.04.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "iznogood"]
[Black "Cappy02067"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1838"]
[BlackElo "1337"]
[EndDate ive game brought to you not by a GM or IM but by a normal Joe.}[/pgn][/b]
Originally posted by Marinkatombhate to think what you would make of this then
2..Be6 is a bad move on principle, it blocks the white bishop in, blocks the d-pawn from advancing to claim the center. Two moves later you moved the Be6 to c5....well why not do that straight away? I've only ever seen a master play such a move once, and that player was Tal (who was World champion at the time). As a general rule, neither bishop should ev ...[text shortened]... ut this only happens when the white bishop is fianchettoed on g2 and white has already castled.