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Originally posted by jonisflyyes, accept the draw.
can i ask u guys a question
just a non suscriber but i am finishing a game with a really good oponent.
I have him in one move and he has offered a draw
I respect this guy but have worked hard to beat him?
should I give him the draw?
as they say in business, it's a win-win ... make someone happy, and also realize you outplayed the higher rated player.
or, in other words, rating point gains are unimportant.
Originally posted by jonisflyDeciding whether or not to accept a draw is like making a move. Advice cannot be given on that decision while the game is in progress.
can i ask u guys a question
just a non suscriber but i am finishing a game with a really good oponent.
I have him in one move and he has offered a draw
I respect this guy but have worked hard to beat him?
should I give him the draw?
When the game is over, ask again, whether you should have (or not) accepted the draw, and I and others will be free to answer.
Originally posted by jonisflyMost certainly not! If you really have him in one move, then his draw offer is an insult.
can i ask u guys a question
just a non suscriber but i am finishing a game with a really good oponent.
I have him in one move and he has offered a draw
I respect this guy but have worked hard to beat him?
should I give him the draw?
Originally posted by jonisflyNo, you should not give him a draw in principle. Otherwise, how are you going to practice chess? Beat the guy and be proud of yourself for playing better. He will get over it and will insist on a rematch.
can i ask u guys a question
just a non suscriber but i am finishing a game with a really good oponent.
I have him in one move and he has offered a draw
I respect this guy but have worked hard to beat him?
should I give him the draw?
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI'm not so sure about that -- in my "ethical analysis" (smile)
Never feel guilty about taking a timeout.
I have to ask myself -- why am I playing here? Is it "to run up my rating" or is it to play chess? If I'm here to play chess...then why would I time out a game I'm losing?
Here's _my_ decision. I don't time folks out unless it's a tournament game. To me, the goal of a tournament is to win...not just play chess. So "a win's a win" in a tournament.
Otherwise...I'd only time someone out if I had a winning position and they booked out on me.
I want a high rating as much as the next guy. But I want it to reflect my accomplishments in chess...and timing people out does not, in my opinion, reflect my skills....just my attentiveness.
Nonny
Originally posted by nonnymooseI thought timeouts in tournaments were automatic.
I'm not so sure about that -- in my "ethical analysis" (smile)
I have to ask myself -- why am I playing here? Is it "to run up my rating" or is it to play chess? If I'm here to play chess...then why would I time out a game I'm losing?
Here's _my_ decision. I don't time folks out unless it's a tournament game. To me, the goal of a tour ...[text shortened]... timing people out does not, in my opinion, reflect my skills....just my attentiveness.
Nonny
Originally posted by nonnymooseIf you don't time people out, and you then lose or draw the game, then your opponent used resources you didn't have to get that result (unless he didn't time you out either). Therefore you were fighting an uphill battle. There are two ways to win in chess; checkmate, or the opponent running out of time. That's the game. You shouldn't be ashamed to play it that way.
I'm not so sure about that -- in my "ethical analysis" (smile)
I have to ask myself -- why am I playing here? Is it "to run up my rating" or is it to play chess? If I'm here to play chess...then why would I time out a game I'm losing?
Here's _my_ decision. I don't time folks out unless it's a tournament game. To me, the goal of a tour ...[text shortened]... timing people out does not, in my opinion, reflect my skills....just my attentiveness.
Nonny
If your opponent has a better position and more material, yet you see that you can initiate a combination and mate him, shouldn't you go for it? Timeouts are similar. It's all part of the game of correspondence (or OTB tournament) chess.
Originally posted by Dodger11I fail to see how you can claim to have told "everyone" your policy when you don't have a profile. Since when am I expected to search the boards for every post you've made before playing you?
I don't have a profile, don't want a profile, and I've already told everyone on the site what my policy is, it's the same as a lot of the players rated 2000 plus on RHP. So why am I taking heat from you? Go read the profiles of your big sportsman heroes who say they take T/O's immediately and never look back. What are you crying about tmexler? Sad because you have a sorry little rating?
I think you should claim the win if your opponent time-outs anytime. He chose to play that way, and he should follow the rules. But I don't like playing with an one day time-out, because I think my opponent can cheat on me anytime, by waiting until I go offline and then move so I will time-out.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI'm not saying it's "wrong" to time people out... just that it doesn't suit my purposes...which is playing chess....and having a high rating that reflects my true abilities.
[b]If you don't time people out, and you then lose or draw the game, then your opponent used resources you didn't have to get that result (unless he didn't time you out either).
You are right in saying that "time" is a part of the game. Certainly "over the board" that makes sense.
I guess I just don't imagine that someone hasn't moved because they are studying and studying the game. Rather they have other things in life that have taken them away....or they started too many games.
I guess if I equated the time in Corr chess to time in OTB, then I'd feel the way you do.
To _me_ though -- I feel like I'm getting a "cheap victory" -- not a true one when I time someone out.
But I do agree "it's part of the game" and I'd never tell someone "it's wrong". It's just something I don't _normally_ choose to do.
Nonny