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Originally posted by vivifyActually, there are ways for black to prolong avoiding mate, beyond five moves (though they're unrealistic, unless black is trying to win by time). But you get the point: black resigned, seeing how his position was hopeless.
I didn't include that, because it's not a logical move for black to do.
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1.Nd5 { The logical move, obviously, is to protect the queen, if black's gonna bother to continue playing. } 1...Nc6 2.Nxe7 Kxe7 3.Qh7 Bf8 4.Be8+ Kxe8 5.Qd7# { Mate in five. ove black choses, it's mate in 2, 3 or 5 moves, which is why he resigned.}
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Originally posted by vivify
Over at Chess.com, I've been using an opening as white, that I wanted to know if there's a name for. If not, I think we should name it after me. 😉 The position is at move number six:
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1.d4 c6 2.e4 g6 3.Nf3 f6 4.Nc3 Bg7 5.Bd3 h5 6.Be3 { I really l ...[text shortened]... 7 Nh6 17.Bxh6 Bxh6 18.Qh5 Bg7 { Black resigned, realizing I had mate in two. }
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See the 2nd example give by paulbuchmanfromfics for another way to get to this position.
That is if Black now plays 4...d6.
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Originally posted by ChessPraxisNo it isn't. I take that back. There is a variation of the Robatsh that also gets to the same position I posted for the transposition in the Morden Defense. But I think we can rule out the Caro Kann Defense as a possibility.
In a few googles on the first 4 moves of a few PGNs, it is a Robatsch or possibly a variation of the Caro-Kann.
It's actually a hybrid of the Modern (Robatsch) and the Caro-Kann. It is usually referred to as a Modern.
The idea is to play d5 (usually), Bg4, trade the light squared bishop on f3, play h5 and Nf5, and create a total light square blockade. Then e6 and c5 undermines the center. Marinkatomb has been playing this system a bit lately.
The ultra slick move order (if I remember correctly) is:
Originally posted by vivifyThe point is, it's not a mate in 2 unless every variation is mate in 2 or less.
I didn't include that, because it's not a logical move for black to do.
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1.Nd5 { The logical move, obviously, is to protect the queen, if black's gonna bother to continue playing. } 1...Nc6 2.Nxe7 Kxe7 3.Qh7 Bf8 4.Be8+ Kxe8 5.Qd7# { Mate in five. ...[text shortened]... ove black choses, it's mate in 2, 3 or 5 moves, which is why he resigned.}
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Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromficsIn the Suttles game, the idea of ...Nh6-Nf7 is an idea that featured prominently in the games of J C Thompson, an English player who played such ideas in the 1950's. I'll see if I can find some games.
A hypermodern opening is one where one side doesn't put any pawns in the center (e4-d4-e5-d5). Instead, the hypermodern opening tries to attack the center from the flanks. The idea is let white build a big center. Attack it. Let white loosen himself defending it. Destroy it. And last, toss black's center pawns forward (White's have destroye ...[text shortened]... 4 32.Rg1 Rg8+
33.Kf1 Qb5+ 34.Rd3 Rxg1+ 35.Kxg1 1-0
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When I read the OP's game, Thompson was the first person I thought of, and the Suttles game is right in that mold. An excellent game!
Originally posted by RJHindsHardly RJ as 1.e4...c6 2. d4...g6 is indeed a Caro-Kann.
No it isn't. I take that back. There is a variation of the Robatsh that also gets to the same position I posted for the transposition in the Morden Defense. But I think we can rule out the Caro Kann Defense as a possibility.
Originally posted by ChessPraxis1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 !? Sometimes you'll see this move in a book. (I believe it was in one of my Kasparov books.) The idea is dxe4 Nxe4 is a regular Caro-Kann. If black plays g6, Nd2 is designed to reserve c2-c3 as a possibility.
Hardly RJ as 1.e4...c6 2. d4...g6 is indeed a Caro-Kann.
It's a Caro-Modern hybrid all the way, RJ!
Originally posted by RJHindsYes, but only because Suttles overplayed his hand in the endgame. I think he missed the f4 push. The rook ending (had he traded queens somewhere in there) was in fact a draw. The game is annotated in Learn From The Grandmasters. Great Book!
Pal Benko won that game as white, not Suttles.
Each player (author) chooses two great games - one of his own and one that inspired him.
It's a fun read and great book. I see it here at amazon (US) for only $2 used. Anyone with a little chess budget should check it out.