Is there a win for black here?
07 Nov '16 15:302 editsWhite to move obviously since he is in check.
The game is over, we called it a draw.
07 Nov '16 20:462 editsOriginally posted by RagwortYou have a point, there is a win, but I was thinking more on the lines of a forced win🙂
[pgn]
[FEN "Q3b3/2K1P3/8/4k3/2q5/8/8/8 w - - 3 71"]
71. Qc6 Qxc6 72. Kd8 Qd7 [/pgn]
07 Nov '16 21:04Originally posted by sonhouseThere is a sneaky trap, Kd8, Bc6, e8=Q+, Bxe8, Kxe8, Qg8+ and then take the queen on a8 but Qa5+ after Bc6 seems to secure the draw.
You have a point, there is a win, but I was thinking more on the lines of a forced win🙂
Like now K-e1, now what?
So if K-e1, how do I stop white from perpetual check? And the white king is attacking my bishop.
08 Nov '16 06:55Originally posted by sonhouseThis position is within the range of 6 piece endgame tablebases which are free to access on line. The one I consulted said Kb8 or Kd8 is a draw but white loses with the 3 other legal moves. As an example of the way things are going ICCF now allow win/ draw claims as soon as a tablebase position is reached. Of course it is against the rules of this site to consult them during play here.
You have a point, there is a win, but I was thinking more on the lines of a forced win🙂
Like now K-e1, now what?
So if K-e1, how do I stop white from perpetual check? And the white king is attacking my bishop.
08 Nov '16 10:31Originally posted by RagwortIn this game it was declared a draw so any analysis would be appreciated. I saw the queen trap but it looked to me like he wouldn't have taken the bishop but instead just start checking my king which would probably been draw anyway.
This position is within the range of 6 piece endgame tablebases which are free to access on line. The one I consulted said Kb8 or Kd8 is a draw but white loses with the 3 other legal moves. As an example of the way things are going ICCF now allow win/ draw claims as soon as a tablebase position is reached. Of course it is against the rules of this site to consult them during play here.
08 Nov '16 12:34Originally posted by KnightStalker47Thanks for the analysis. I saw some of the second play but not running it to mate.
No win there, that position is a draw.
Here is the point where you chucked the win.
[pgn]
[FEN "4b3/p3P3/P2K4/3p4/3k4/8/8/8 w - - 0 1"]
1. Kc7 Ke5 {This move is a little strange, Kc5 is more natural, moving towards the action. After Kc5 the idea of simply running the pawn as you did in the game works} 2. Kb7 Kd6 {You played d4 which is the mo ...[text shortened]... b3/4P3/1K6/4k3/3q4/8/8/8 w - - 0 1"]
1. Kc7 Qd6 2. Kc8 Bd7+ 3. Kd8 Bc6+ 4. Kc8 Qd7+ {GG} [/pgn]
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