Is this a draw?

I can't see a way to make progress for white, and its the wrong bishop, and its a rook pawn. Is there something I'm clearly missing?

White wins in 27 moves.

Originally posted by Exuma
[fen]k5r1/P7/1B6/4R3/4K3/8/8/8 w - - 0 67[/fen]

I can't see a way to make progress for white, and its the wrong bishop, and its a rook pawn. Is there something I'm clearly missing?

Can you show the line? White can't trade rooks, and black's rook is already on the back rank, so I don't see the method.

King and Rook both on the 7th, King on the d file with the Rook outside. Pawn needs to Queen. That's the line.

skeets

Originally posted by skeeter
King and Rook both on the 7th, King on the d file with the Rook outside. Pawn needs to Queen. That's the line.

skeets

Originally posted by skeeter
King and Rook both on the 7th, King on the d file with the Rook outside. Pawn needs to Queen. That's the line.

skeets

Originally posted by Paul Leggett
....... but can you be more specific about how to force it?

Originally posted by Paul Leggett
Thanks for the response, especially so fast!

I'm thinking to draw as black he just moves the black rook back and forth between the c8 square (where the white king can't capture it) and one of the kingside squares, since white can't cover them all even if he moves the bishop back to try to cover.

I've been placing the white rook on e7, f7, g7 and ...[text shortened]... es a difference.

Sorry if I'm slow, but can you be more specific about how to force it?

Originally posted by SwissGambit
If white could get this:

[fen]k1r5/P2R1K2/8/8/3B4/8/8/8 b - - 0 1[/fen]

Then the Rook has only c8.

Originally posted by skeeter
No. That's not the line. Kings on the wrong side of the Rook. Remember, you need to drive the King off the eighth - that's the key.

skeeter

Originally posted by Paul Leggett
Thanks for the response, especially so fast!

I'm thinking to draw as black he just moves the black rook back and forth between the c8 square (where the white king can't capture it) and one of the kingside squares, since white can't cover them all even if he moves the bishop back to try to cover.

I've been placing the white rook on e7, f7, g7 and ...[text shortened]... es a difference.

Sorry if I'm slow, but can you be more specific about how to force it?

lol SG in your diagram the rook can go almost anywhere b/c a capture would be a stalemate.

Originally posted by Exuma
Another problem for white is that if the rook goes to the 7th too early black draws with the stalemate. Its harder to get the king up there than it looks.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
If I drive the Rook off of the 8th, I can then drive the King off with Rd8+.