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  1. 29 Jan '11 06:31
    Hey fellas, I'm currently stationed in Kuwait. We have a recreational center a there are two chess boards. Only a few fellas play. Anyhow, a few minutes ago I ended up playing a guy. In the end it was my king and a pawn vs his king. Anyhow, I got my queen back. Once my pawn became a queen and the dude made a move, he said "one". I ignored him. Made my next move, he said "two". I asked him, why you counting? He said cuz you only have 13 moves to beat me once all my pieces are gone. I was WTF? Dude that rule is a made up rule. He said no it anit. Anyhow, I didn't want to argue any more. So it ended a "tie". I told him, dude your rule is BS. I'm gonna bring you some rules so you learn how to play the game right.

    Ok fellas what is the answer? And where can I get the rules and tell that dude he was wrong.

    I hope I was right. I'm pretty sure I am.

    Thank you in advance
  2. 29 Jan '11 06:39
    yes, you were right.
  3. 29 Jan '11 06:41
    Originally posted by tmetzler
    yes, you were right.
    that freaken dude!!! I'm gonna talk some serious smack now! when he ask for the rematch I'm simply gonna say....."Sir learn the rules and then we will play" hahahahha
  4. 29 Jan '11 07:47
    Of course this was a BS rule. Here are the rules of the World Chess Federation:

    http://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=124&view=article
  5. 29 Jan '11 08:20
    maybe he mixed up 2 things :
    - there is a rule concerning the maximum number of moves in an endgame (in fact : without capture or pawn moves), but it's a draw only after 50 moves, not 13.
    - if i remember correctly, with best play, it's possible to force checkmate with a lone queen in 9 moves at most (if your pieces are in the worst position at start), and in 13 with a lone rook (but that's not a rule, just an information!)
  6. 29 Jan '11 09:43
    Originally posted by Carlitos714
    when he ask for the rematch I'm simply gonna say....."Sir learn the rules and then we will play"
    Ask him about en-passant before the next game...
  7. 29 Jan '11 10:07 / 1 edit
    I thought it was 10 moves is the longest it should take
    to mate with King and Queen v a lone King.
    16 moves for King and Rook v King.

    However if it is 9 and 13 then I stand corrected.

    Local 'house rules' in chess like the 13 moves are not too uncommon.
    I remember a lad posting on here saying he was told you could not checkmate
    a King until it had been in check at least once.
  8. 29 Jan '11 12:33
    An old houserule of us; in blitz chess when a lone king reaches the 8th it's a draw.
    A 'good' player invented this the first time he got in trouble.

    Had some funny games that way

    toet.
  9. 30 Jan '11 00:54
    Originally posted by Carlitos714
    that freaken dude!!! I'm gonna talk some serious smack now! when he ask for the rematch I'm simply gonna say....."Sir learn the rules and then we will play" hahahahha
    you were bamboozled.
  10. 30 Jan '11 01:20 / 1 edit
    Game 5511092


    From here it took Black (graded 1880) 39 moves to give checkmate.

    Funnily enough 13 x 3 = 39 so under the Kuwait Rules this game
    was drawn twice and won once when Black mated White on the
    13th move of the 3rd set of 13 moves.
  11. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    30 Jan '11 01:33 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Game 5511092

    [fen]q7/8/1K6/8/2k5/8/8/8 b - - 0 106[/fen]
    From here it took Black (graded 1880) 39 moves to give checkmate.

    Funnily enough 13 x 3 = 39 so under the Kuwait Rules this game
    was drawn twice and won once when Black mated White on the
    13th move of the 3rd set of 13 moves.
    Was it black to move in this position? I don't see how white could hang on that long. Are you talking half moves? I don't see how white could avoid being herded into the last rank and then king chase.

    Depending on whose move it is, I got it down to 5 moves to mate.
  12. 30 Jan '11 02:35
    Hi Sonhouse

    I gave the game link. It is what happened. It's move 106
    Black lets White out of the mating net and messes about till
    he mates him 39 moves later.

    Perhaps he was wanting to mate him on move 50
    just to annoy him...who knows.
  13. 30 Jan '11 15:41
    Originally posted by Carlitos714
    Anyhow, a few minutes ago I ended up playing a guy. In the end it was my king and a pawn vs his king. Anyhow, I got my queen back. Once my pawn became a queen and the dude made a move, he said "one". I ignored him. Made my next move, he said "two". I asked him, why you counting? He said cuz you only have 13 moves to beat me once all my pieces are gone. I was WTF? Dude that rule is a made up rule.
    There's a rule something, but not quite, like that in Makruk a.k.a. Thai chess. Not in normal chess, though.

    Richard
  14. Standard member wormwood
    If Theres Hell Below
    30 Jan '11 16:35
    Originally posted by shorbock
    maybe he mixed up 2 things :
    - there is a rule concerning the maximum number of moves in an endgame (in fact : without capture or pawn moves), but it's a draw only after 50 moves, not 13.
    probably should be mentioned here that 50 moves means 100 half-moves. a common source of confusion among beginners.

    ie. one 'move' means both sides move once. a pair of half-moves. a half-move is also called a 'ply'.