Hey fellas, I'm currently stationed in Kuwait. We have a recreational center a there are two chess boards. Only a few fellas play. Anyhow, a few minutes ago I ended up playing a guy. In the end it was my king and a pawn vs his king. Anyhow, I got my queen back. Once my pawn became a queen and the dude made a move, he said "one". I ignored him. Made my next move, he said "two". I asked him, why you counting? He said cuz you only have 13 moves to beat me once all my pieces are gone. I was WTF? Dude that rule is a made up rule. He said no it anit. Anyhow, I didn't want to argue any more. So it ended a "tie". I told him, dude your rule is BS. I'm gonna bring you some rules so you learn how to play the game right.
Ok fellas what is the answer? And where can I get the rules and tell that dude he was wrong.
Originally posted by tmetzler yes, you were right.
that freaken dude!!! I'm gonna talk some serious smack now! when he ask for the rematch I'm simply gonna say....."Sir learn the rules and then we will play" hahahahha
maybe he mixed up 2 things :
- there is a rule concerning the maximum number of moves in an endgame (in fact : without capture or pawn moves), but it's a draw only after 50 moves, not 13.
- if i remember correctly, with best play, it's possible to force checkmate with a lone queen in 9 moves at most (if your pieces are in the worst position at start), and in 13 with a lone rook (but that's not a rule, just an information!)
I thought it was 10 moves is the longest it should take
to mate with King and Queen v a lone King.
16 moves for King and Rook v King.
However if it is 9 and 13 then I stand corrected.
Local 'house rules' in chess like the 13 moves are not too uncommon.
I remember a lad posting on here saying he was told you could not checkmate
a King until it had been in check at least once.
Originally posted by Carlitos714 that freaken dude!!! I'm gonna talk some serious smack now! when he ask for the rematch I'm simply gonna say....."Sir learn the rules and then we will play" hahahahha
From here it took Black (graded 1880) 39 moves to give checkmate.
Funnily enough 13 x 3 = 39 so under the Kuwait Rules this game
was drawn twice and won once when Black mated White on the
13th move of the 3rd set of 13 moves.
[fen]q7/8/1K6/8/2k5/8/8/8 b - - 0 106[/fen]
From here it took Black (graded 1880) 39 moves to give checkmate.
Funnily enough 13 x 3 = 39 so under the Kuwait Rules this game
was drawn twice and won once when Black mated White on the
13th move of the 3rd set of 13 moves.
Was it black to move in this position? I don't see how white could hang on that long. Are you talking half moves? I don't see how white could avoid being herded into the last rank and then king chase.
Depending on whose move it is, I got it down to 5 moves to mate.
Originally posted by Carlitos714 Anyhow, a few minutes ago I ended up playing a guy. In the end it was my king and a pawn vs his king. Anyhow, I got my queen back. Once my pawn became a queen and the dude made a move, he said "one". I ignored him. Made my next move, he said "two". I asked him, why you counting? He said cuz you only have 13 moves to beat me once all my pieces are gone. I was WTF? Dude that rule is a made up rule.
There's a rule something, but not quite, like that in Makruk a.k.a. Thai chess. Not in normal chess, though.
Originally posted by shorbock maybe he mixed up 2 things :
- there is a rule concerning the maximum number of moves in an endgame (in fact : without capture or pawn moves), but it's a draw only after 50 moves, not 13.
probably should be mentioned here that 50 moves means 100 half-moves. a common source of confusion among beginners.
ie. one 'move' means both sides move once. a pair of half-moves. a half-move is also called a 'ply'.
Is this true? 13 moves?
29 Jan '11 06:31
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