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Originally posted by wormwoodTough on you. They've found a fairly simple way to detect the most obvious type of cheater. I'd say the advantage gained by stopping this type of cheating outweighs the minor inconvenience of you having to listen to the whole ABBA CD.
I often do other things while playing, like respond to messengers or change music. if it's a slower game I might even check my mail or switch to rhp forum. I can easily see how there can be a number of task switches during a game.
and surely 'multitasking' on a pc won't have the slightest chance of distracting the opponent.
Someone stepping away from the board OTB and turning on their laptop to "check their e-mail or look at the RHP forum" won't distract an opponent either. Try it some time and see what happens.
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Originally posted by no1maraudersimple?? it doesn't work. it doesn't detect engine use in any way. and as if that wasn't enough, they're not even telling you that you're not allowed to use other programs while playing, now are they? not even in the warning message it seems.
Tough on you. They've found a fairly simple way to detect the most obvious type of cheater. I'd say the advantage gained by stopping this type of cheating outweighs the minor inconvenience of you having to listen to the whole ABBA CD.
Someone stepping away from the board OTB and turning on their laptop to "check their e-mail or look at the RHP forum" won't distract an opponent either. Try it some time and see what happens.
and why are you making up silly and unlikely scenarios from OTB which are completely irrelevant to internet play anyway?
I could live with detecting task switching if they used that to select candidates for statistical analysis, but apparently they're not doing so. detecting abba being switched to slayer isn't enough proof for me.
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Originally posted by no1marauderWhen I`m playing longer games on Playchess and my opponent spends a lot of time per move then I usually 'multitasking' on non-chess subjects. And I`m still playing in Playchess for more than 2 years without being even warned. So I have reason to think that Playchess admins disagree with your primitive approach.
Tough on you. They've found a fairly simple way to detect the most obvious type of cheater. I'd say the advantage gained by stopping this type of cheating outweighs the minor inconvenience of you having to listen to the whole ABBA CD.
Someone stepping away from the board OTB and turning on their laptop to "check their e-mail or look at the RHP forum" won't distract an opponent either. Try it some time and see what happens.
PlayChess is very specific in informing players of their policies regarding cheating. Here's something from their FAQ - Cheating Controls:
The program registers when other programs are active. If these are often called up from the background the player in question receives a warning and is asked to stop using these programs. If this warning is persistently ignored, the ELO rating will be deleted and - in case of recurrence - even the entire account.
Them's the rules at PlayChess.
Originally posted by KorchReally? I suggest you read the FAQ there, Mr. Know-It-All.
When I`m playing longer games on Playchess and my opponent spends a lot of time per move then I usually 'multitasking' on non-chess subjects. And I`m still playing in Playchess for more than 2 years without being even warned. So I have reason to think that Playchess admins disagree with your primitive approach.
Originally posted by wormwoodYes, they are telling you. Read the FAQ.
simple?? it doesn't work. it doesn't detect engine use in any way. and as if that wasn't enough, [b]they're not even telling you that you're not allowed to use other programs while playing, now are they? not even in the warning message it seems.
and why are you making up silly and unlikely scenarios from OTB which are completely irrelevant to interne ...[text shortened]... they're not doing so. detecting abba being switched to slayer isn't enough proof for me.[/b]
Real time internet chess is supposed to approximate OTB play. The people who run the sites recognize this, even if you don't.
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Originally posted by no1marauderLearn to read - or does words "too often" means nothing for you? According to your statements `multitasking` would be enough for ban, independently from how often its done. And it does not match with policy of Playchess. As I`ve already pointed out - I still haven`t been even warned.
Really? I suggest you read the FAQ there, Mr. Know-It-All.
Originally posted by KorchI said no such thing.
Learn to read - or does words "too often" means nothing for you? According to your statements `multitasking` would be enough for ban, independently from how often its done. and it does not match with policy of Playchess. As I`ve already pointed out - I still haven`t been even warned.
I have no reason to believe anything you say.
Originally posted by no1marauderI said no such thing.
I said no such thing.
I have no reason to believe anything you say.
Your previous posts speaks for themselves. I`m not gonna waste my time to argue with you (as you have showed yourself as unable to admit your mistakes) so let others to judge.
I have no reason to believe anything you say.
You have no base to accuse me in lies.
Originally posted by no1marauderokay, thanks. but it doesn't change the fact that it's still a worthless way of detecting engines. I sincerely hope they're doing more.
PlayChess is very specific in informing players of their policies regarding cheating. Here's something from their FAQ - Cheating Controls:
The program registers when other programs are active. If these are often called up from the background the player in question receives a warning and is asked to stop using these programs. If this wa ...[text shortened]... ase of recurrence - even the entire account.
Them's the rules at PlayChess.
Originally posted by no1marauderso now you're insinuating I and korch are cheating on playchess, just because we disagree with you??? get a tinfoil hat buddy, you're sinking to the level of arrakis.
It's always interesting to see who starts complaining about specific anti-cheating measures either here or on other sites.
Originally posted by wormwoodThey are. That's just a portion of the FAQ - Cheating Controls; I suggest you read the whole thing (for some reason I can't seem to "cut and paste" it.). It seems clear from the rest of the FAQ that they do engine matchup analysis where it is deemed necessary.
okay, thanks. but it doesn't change the fact that it's still a worthless way of detecting engines. I sincerely hope they're doing more.
I disagree it's "worthless"; it stops the most direct way of cheating. Since most cheaters are pretty lazy and kinda stupid (else they wouldn't cheat), I'd say it would catch 80% or more of internet chess cheats. There is the problem of "false positives", but if you have read the FAQ and/or heed the warnings you're in the clear.