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there's one line of the KGA in which I run into serious problems and have avoided it since...

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d5

I don't know what it's called, or even if names exists for it, but it get's me every time.

any suggested reading/books etc?

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Originally posted by onyx2006
there's one line of the KGA in which I run into serious problems and have avoided it since...

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d5

I don't know what it's called, or even if names exists for it, but it get's me every time.

any suggested reading/books etc?

J
d5 is a supposed counter gambit for all known white gambits...
this means that the effect of your gained space and tempo have essentially been whiped out in his one move...
d5 is not the best though
it just gets white out of book KGA

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Originally posted by onyx2006
there's one line of the KGA in which I run into serious problems and have avoided it since...

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d5

I don't know what it's called, or even if names exists for it, but it get's me every time.

any suggested reading/books etc?

J
When I was looking for a good line against KG I tried this for Black I got my asskicked every time....

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Originally posted by najdorfslayer
When I was looking for a good line against KG I tried this for Black I got my asskicked every time....
that might not mean the opening is bad................

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Originally posted by onyx2006
there's one line of the KGA in which I run into serious problems and have avoided it since...

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d5

I don't know what it's called, or even if names exists for it, but it get's me every time.

any suggested reading/books etc?

J
Well in place of the bad advice let me try to shine a little light on the situation for you..

It's called the Modern Defense, because it's, well, a very "modern" way to play against the KGA - and it's solid, quite tough. After 3...d5 white should really take the pawn (the alternative with 4.e5 just isn't as strong, objectively) and from here black has a nice choice of options, but you'll probably see 4...Nf6 most often, to which you get some choices. My preference there is 5.Bc4 which I think is quite nice, but 5.Bb5+ and 5.d4 are also quite popular. There are plenty of lines and variations to know, but it seems to be about equal for both sides. If you want more information I could probably look it up, I'm not sure if there's anything in the KG forum about the variation, but it definitely shouldn't be your most challenging line to face (save that for the Orthodox with 3...g5).


Here's a quick example of a couple of lines you may see:

[Event "Blitz:3'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "KGModern Lines"]
[Black "Fritz 9"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "15"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d5 4. exd5 Nf6 5. Bc4 (
5. Bb5+ c6 6. dxc6 bxc6 7. Be2 (7. Bc4 Nd5 8. d4 Bd6 9. O-O)) 5... Nxd5 6. O-O
Be7 7. d4 Be6 8. Qe2 *

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Originally posted by najdorfslayer
When I was looking for a good line against KG I tried this for Black I got my asskicked every time....
Try the Falkbeer with 3...e4!

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
d5 is a supposed counter gambit for all known white gambits...
this means that the effect of your gained space and tempo have essentially been whiped out in his one move...
d5 is not the best though
it just gets white out of book KGA
Well, it's not really a countergambit because black could technically just grab the pawn right away. And it definitely does more than just get white out of book - in fact I don't think it gets white out of book at all, because that's in my book (and head...).

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
Try the Falkbeer with 3...e4!
I play exf4 followed by g5 and my results have been okay.

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I play exf4 and Nf6

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
d5 is a supposed counter gambit for all known white gambits...
this means that the effect of your gained space and tempo have essentially been whiped out in his one move...
d5 is not the best though
it just gets white out of book KGA
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