King's Indian Defense

I normally play 5.f3 after this position. What do you guys recommend as the best fifth move?

a.f4
b.Be2
c.f3
4.Nf3

Originally posted by Dutch Defense
I normally play 5.f3 after this position. What do you guys recommend as the best fifth move?

a.f4
b.Be2
c.f3
4.Nf3

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# 4 hands down


EDIT: oh and you forgot #5 Bd3 thats a playable move.

4.Nf3....make room for castling....

Originally posted by chessisvanity
4.Nf3....make room for castling....

that isn't the best or only reason as Be2 also makes room for castling.

Originally posted by tomtom232
that isn't the best or only reason as Be2 also makes room for castling.

True but...."Knights before Bishops"

Which i think is BS....i always develope my bishops into fianchettoes first.

5.Bf4...0-0
6.Nf3

boys...there is a lot of chess theory in king indian on internet...please wisit some site...and read it

Originally posted by marsushavran
boys...there is a lot of chess theory in king indian on internet...please wisit some site...and read it

Perhaps you can show me how to "wisit" a site while you're at it?

This is the site i go to.

Thats why i pay to be here. so i can learn "all" different things about chess.

even the KID which i don't play....but may soon take up.

I don't play 1 d4 2 c4 as White, but I sometimes play the KID as Black and the move I least like to see is 5 f3 (the Saemisch variation).
I used to joke that the reason Fischer gave up chess was because the Saemisch Variation took all of the fun out of playing his beloved King's Indian Defense.

When I play KID I fear f3.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
When I play KID I fear f3.

there's not much to fear in f3- just plan ...nh5 and ...f5 and you're fine

Originally posted by chessisvanity
Which i think is BS....i always develope my bishops into fianchettoes first.

and in this case, a fianchetto is also considered good
g3 is what I'd probably play, but in practice, for whatever reason, the KID is not one I come across that much. usually its QGD, QGA, or nimzo-Indian. I personally play Nimzo against 1. d4 whenever I'm black.

Originally posted by chesskid001
there's not much to fear in f3- just plan ...nh5 and ...f5 and you're fine

That's an excellent plan if White castles kingside, but in many variations of the Saemisch White castles long. And White may delay his decision for a bit, so finding constructive moves for Black when he doens't know where White's king is going to live is a challange.