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09 Sep 06
09 Sep 06
Milner Berry question?
1) e2e4…e7e6
2) d2d4…d7d5
3) e4e5…c7c5
4) c2c3…b8c6
5) g1f3…d8b6
6) f1d3…c5d4
7) c3d4…c8d7
8) b1c3…c6d4
9) f3d4…b6d4
10) e1g1…d4e5
11) f1e1
Ok, the book says play the queen back to b8 and just give white the pawn back on d5, but what happens if he plays 11)...e5d6 to hang on to the second pawn?
I know its wrong but I can’t see why!!
Any clues
Cheers
Jon
09 Sep 06
1 edit
White will gain tempo with Nb5. Lemme dig out a game where black decided to "eat" my pawn with his king still in the center.
Edit here is the gameGame 2044222
09 Sep 06
1 edit
Originally posted by KrapsparovThe main problem with 11...Qd6 is that White has the option of virtually forcing a draw: 12.Nb5 Qb6 13.Be3 Qa5 (13...Qd8 14.Bf4 or Rc1 sets up the annoying threat of Nc7+) 14.Bd2 Qb6 etc.
Milner Berry question?
1) e2e4…e7e6
2) d2d4…d7d5
3) e4e5…c7c5
4) c2c3…b8c6
5) g1f3…d8b6
6) f1d3…c5d4
7) c3d4…c8d7
8) b1c3…c6d4
9) f3d4…b6d4
10) e1g1…d4e5
11) f1e1
Ok, the book says play the queen back to b8 and just give white the pawn back on d5, but what happens if he plays 11)...e5d6 to hang on to the second pawn?
I know its wrong but I can’t see why!!
Any clues
Cheers
Jon
09 Sep 06
Originally posted by z00tYou gave me a link to a sicilian 🙄
White will gain tempo with Nb5. Lemme dig out a game where black decided to [b]"eat" my pawn with his king still in the center.
Edit here is the gameGame 2044222[/b]
09 Sep 06
1 edit
Originally posted by KrapsparovThe idea I wanted to demonstrate was that a Queen going on a pawn-hunt early in the game is disastrous, since you can develop by attacking it. There are similar traps in almost all openings not just Sicilian.
You gave me a link to a sicilian 🙄
These are invaluable in speed chess since your opponents clock will take a severe hit as he works out the complications.
09 Sep 06
Originally posted by KrapsparovThere's nothing wrong with it if you're willing to settle for a draw.
Milner Berry question?
1) e2e4…e7e6
2) d2d4…d7d5
3) e4e5…c7c5
4) c2c3…b8c6
5) g1f3…d8b6
6) f1d3…c5d4
7) c3d4…c8d7
8) b1c3…c6d4
9) f3d4…b6d4
10) e1g1…d4e5
11) f1e1
Ok, the book says play the queen back to b8 and just give white the pawn back on d5, but what happens if he plays 11)...e5d6 to hang on to the second pawn?
[fen]r3kbnr/pp1b1pp ...[text shortened]... 8/2NB4/PP3PPP/R1BQR1K1[/fen]
I know its wrong but I can’t see why!!
Any clues
Cheers
Jon
From 11....,Qd6
12.Nb5,Qb6
13.Be3,Qa5
14.Bd2,Qb6
and White doesn't really have anything better than keep repeating the position.If White does try for more Black will be better.The game still won't win itself of course,White still has chances but Black is more than OK .