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  1. Subscriber shougi
    the misteke makor
    12 Apr '02 15:19
    What do you you (anyone who cares to respond) think about Modern
    Chess Openings by Nick De Firmian?
  2. Standard member Schliemann
    The Diplomat
    12 Apr '02 15:26
    It's the "Bible" of chess...although ECO has 5 volumes and has more
    details...MCO is the best compact opening book. Way better than
    Nunn's Chess Openings (NCO) or Standard Chess Openings by Schiller.

    Dave
  3. Subscriber shougi
    the misteke makor
    12 Apr '02 15:50
    that's what they said at Amazon.com, the "bible" of chess but I wasn't
    sure if it was just an advertising spiel.
  4. 12 Apr '02 19:38
    Randy Bauer doesn't agree with you, Dave. Jan
  5. 12 Apr '02 19:44
    Dave, to be entirely honest with you and Shougi, I've never had the
    opportunity to use the NCO. It seems, according to Randy, that both
    have their merits, +s and -s. I have the MCO and appreciate Nick's et
    al's work. There are drawbacks, though. E.g.: I like to play the
    Scandinavian (Center Counter, as you call it over there) and the
    Alekhine Defence. So far so good. But MCO does NOT give you an
    answer when in the former your opponent doesn't play 2.exd5 and in
    the latter 2.e5. You need a specific book on these openings then.
    Why not giving just a few hints? Regards. Jan
  6. Standard member Schliemann
    The Diplomat
    12 Apr '02 20:52
    This is very bad...in the book "The Scandinavian" by John Emms..he
    has just a little info on it.

    2..Bf5 or c5

    Here is one example

    2...c5 3.c3 Nc6 4.d4 cxd4 5. cxd4 Bf5 6.Nc3 e6 (Black has an excellnt
    version of the French advance, where the bishop is outside the pawn
    chain)

    Hope that helps

    Dave
  7. Standard member Schliemann
    The Diplomat
    12 Apr '02 20:56
    is not the best reviewer in the world...I own NCO as well as MCO...and
    I usually can find what I need in MCO...and if not..I have my
    Informants...they are great for offbeat variations and things that you
    cannot find in either.

    But an specialized book on the opening is always the way to go.

    Dave
  8. 14 Apr '02 00:25
    i own both, and i personally look at NCO all the time. it has everything you
    could want and a lot more than MCO. although either book is great, i prefer NCO
  9. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    14 Apr '02 15:36
    Yah Zumdahl......I only have NCO but it's freakin sweet!
  10. 15 Apr '02 14:47
    I have the MCO and the ECO (A, B, C, D and E). Don't think there's
    any justification for having both NCO & MCO. Unless you've got money
    to spend.
    I just bought the Fritz Powerbook 2002. That's a great help (as an
    encyplopaedia) with its 1,700,000 opening positions and 649,000
    related games.
    But still... understanding a few sound openings for both White and
    Black seems to be the sensible goal to aim at. Jan
  11. 15 Apr '02 15:52
    I agree that it is important to ahve a few sound openings in your
    repertoire that you understand and where you feel good with. The rest
    is a matter of time, effort and ambition. But certainly not a
    replacement.
  12. Standard member Schliemann
    The Diplomat
    14 Apr '02 16:07
    And the crowd goes "BOOOOOOOOOOO"..."BOOOOOOOOO"

    Just kidding...I just DeFirmian's analysis to better...but I could be just
    nuts or something.

    Dave
  13. 14 Apr '02 17:38
    nah, i guess its just personal preference. both books are great and ive seen
    grandmasters carry around both of them just in case!
  14. Subscriber shougi
    the misteke makor
    15 Apr '02 11:43
    Thanks for the input. In the end I bought both.
  15. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    18 Nov '07 01:48
    Modern Defense