30 Jun 06
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundA rook sacrifice, meaning to give up the piece (in this case a rook) for some other form of compensation. In this case it is not a sacrifice since the rook could not be captured without the queen being gained. In short, how can it be a sacrifice when you will gain material?
for us termanology retards (i mean me)
what is a rook sac?
A genuine sacrifice will not lead to a forced gain in material but some other form of compensation, such as: development; gaining an outpost; space; open lines and/or diagonals; exposing a king etc. Often you will gain more than one of these forms of compensarion with a sacrifice.
01 Jul 06
Originally posted by MensoIt was the best available move (probably) but it still isn't a sacrifice, it's a "discovered check" that allows you to gain material.
Thanks for bursting my bubble. =( , haha jk. Really though, i was just wanting another perspective on that move. I thought it was the best available move, but who am i.
01 Jul 06
Originally posted by cmsMasterI 've seen a term "fake sacrifice" often used - if the opponent takes the offered piece he is going to lose at least the same amount of material in all variations. (I find that many times I've tried to pull a fake sacrifice it turns into a real one when my opponent declines it in a way I had not thought of...)
It was the best available move (probably) but it still isn't a sacrifice, it's a "discovered check" that allows you to gain material.
- bahus
01 Jul 06
Originally posted by bahusIn the English versions of his books, Euve used the term 'sham sacrifice' for this type of move. Personally I like the term investment; you know you are going to get back more than you put in.
[b]I 've seen a term "fake sacrifice" often used - if the opponent takes the offered piece he is going to lose at least the same amount of material in all variations.
01 Jul 06
Originally posted by TommyCchess players being anally retentive nitpicks? that can't really come as a surprise. 🙂
Btw, why does everyone care so much about exact usage of this particular term? This 'debate' seems to come up again and again in the forum, and imo is a waste of time that distracts from more interesting chessy things in the threads.
02 Jul 06
Originally posted by bahusThe term "fake sacrifice" is for scrubs. Don't use it.
I 've seen a term "fake sacrifice" often used - if the opponent takes the offered piece he is going to lose at least the same amount of material in all variations. (I find that many times I've tried to pull a fake sacrifice it turns into a real one when my opponent declines it in a way I had not thought of...)
- bahus