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16 Mar 08
16 Mar 08
After three years of occasional fights with her about me spending too much time with chess, finally she got very interested in it (actually, somehow in my company of friends and family everybody plays chess, from 1000 to 2000 level so she doesn't want to be an exception).
The problem is I do not know how to teach her. I introduced piece movements to her, solid opening principles (more than particular lines) and basic mates.
What I do not know is how should I continue. Should her play with weak opponents infinitly and then teach her more (tactics, etc.), or is better to learn the game from the right begining solidly unlike most of us did when we were thought how to play chess as kids.
I was thinking about Chessmaster academy, where to start, where to start ?!
Thanks in advance.
16 Mar 08
Originally posted by ivan2908Buy her the book "Chess Made Simple" and leave her alone for awhile.
After three years of occasional fights with her about me spending too much time with chess, finally she got very interested in it (actually, somehow in my company of friends and family everybody plays chess, from 1000 to 2000 level so she doesn't want to be an exception).
The problem is I do not know how to teach her. I introduced piece movements to her, ...[text shortened]... was thinking about Chessmaster academy, where to start, where to start ?!
Thanks in advance.
Women aren't like men ya-know... they aren't afraid to ask questions or read the instructions. 😵
16 Mar 08
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You need to get her play. I remember i only had my uncle who got me interested a lot and he did think i could become good player, because of me and him playing too many games together, at first when we play he use to move my pieces for me whenever i move wrong. I remember i always didnt know how to move the Knight, he always correct me, and i thought the queen can do anything in the board, move like knights too. But now i love the Knight piece so much. Its been many years when i remember since i was so small.
Play with her, and move her pieces on chess board infront of her, then slowly let her do it alone not all at one shot still help her. You have to have alot of patience. In my case i was very small but she is old enough should be faster. Really now i cant believe how i love to think deep ahead in moves, and wonder why not everyone can do it. But i thank my uncle from all my heart. I love chess.
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16 Mar 08
Originally posted by ivan2908The Chessmaster Academy is a great way to start. The only disadvantage is that you might have to live with her getting better than you very quickly. 😀
After three years of occasional fights with her about me spending too much time with chess, finally she got very interested in it (actually, somehow in my company of friends and family everybody plays chess, from 1000 to 2000 level so she doesn't want to be an exception).
The problem is I do not know how to teach her. I introduced piece movements to her, ...[text shortened]... was thinking about Chessmaster academy, where to start, where to start ?!
Thanks in advance.
16 Mar 08
Originally posted by ivan2908Well, maybe i'd take a different approach.
After three years of occasional fights with her about me spending too much time with chess, finally she got very interested in it (actually, somehow in my company of friends and family everybody plays chess, from 1000 to 2000 level so she doesn't want to be an exception).
The problem is I do not know how to teach her. I introduced piece movements to her, ...[text shortened]... was thinking about Chessmaster academy, where to start, where to start ?!
Thanks in advance.
I think the fastest way to become familiar with the peaces, and to strengthen your tactical knowledge of their abilities is to play the endgame. Start simply, with a Q+K vs K endgame, then move on with Q+R, Q+B, R+R, and continue.
The game of chess is a hindsight game, we learn the most after the game is already played. If i made you play 1,000 openings (no farther than move 8) and then made you play 1,000 endings (the final 8 moves) which do you think you'd learn more? Now how about 1,000 middle games?
The ending is the fastest place to learn. As she grows and understands more you'll be able to increase the strength of the puzzles. When I was taught (very young) I remember in fact playing games with my teacher, and when i'd lose he'd save the game. He'd then later bring back that ending (if it was close...) and we'd work through the game backwards, and we'd see how I arrived at a weaker, ultimately losing position.
I say start with the endgame, so she can see what pieces can do. This doesn't meen she can't play full games (as most players get tired of just end puzzles) it just meens that she should be focusing primarily on the end.
Teach her how to get to the end after she has tackled its fundamentals. Maybe inviting her onto RHP wouldn't be a bad idea, have her play with people you know will be good opposition, and will be helpful rather than harmful. Furthermore, maybe have her check into the personal chess training from petrovitch, as it is actually geared rather well for weaker players.
Also, some good learning tools = Chessmaster: Art of Learning
she'll have a database that she can utilize by moving, rather than actually already knowing the moves. she'll have tutorials, puzzles, tests, and audio commentary on the games. Another great tool (although slightly more advanced) is the Chessbase Magazine series.
16 Mar 08
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Originally posted by diskamylGood point, but also consider that she just might WANT Ivan to teach her chess. 😉
I think you should just introduce some material (like books or Chessmaster) and just encaurage her. you do not have to teach her everything, I think chess is a very one-person game, especially in the learning phase. she should have to work on it alone.
Edit - I assume Ivan means his girlfriend, not his daughter?
16 Mar 08
Originally posted by Mad RookYes, she was angry with my RHP addiction and now suddenly she got interested very much. I teached her overkill mates today (Staircases etc.), she already opens almost like a 1200 player (each piece once, develop towards center, castle early, knights usually begore bishops, central pawns etc. )
Good point, but also consider that she just might WANT Ivan to teach her chess. 😉
Edit - I assume Ivan means his girlfriend, not his daughter?
I learnt chess on my own because my 2000 rated friend did not have any patience for me but I think it is much better and faster if someone helps you.
I enjoy teaching, my theoretical chess knowledge seems above average, altough I am not so good yet in puting everything to practice.
But I think she can do well (say 1200) within a month or two..
16 Mar 08
Originally posted by ivan2908Include some motivators into the game, that helps improving.
After three years of occasional fights with her about me spending too much time with chess, finally she got very interested in it (actually, somehow in my company of friends and family everybody plays chess, from 1000 to 2000 level so she doesn't want to be an exception).
The problem is I do not know how to teach her. I introduced piece movements to her, ...[text shortened]... was thinking about Chessmaster academy, where to start, where to start ?!
Thanks in advance.
Like when she wins a game, she can tell you to do something of her whish, like bring out the trash can, or wash her underwares, or something. If you win, then she has to do something of your wishes.
Be warned thou, she might improve too fast.
16 Mar 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasbut then he'd suddenly have several installations of engines on his home pc... you can't tell a woman something like that and assume she'll play by honest rules...
Include some motivators into the game, that helps improving.
Like when she wins a game, she can tell you to do something of her whish, like bring out the trash can, or wash her underwares, or something. If you win, then she has to do something of your wishes.
Be warned thou, she might improve too fast.
16 Mar 08
Originally posted by AdoreaA girl can easily teach her boyfriend to play chess in no time.
but then he'd suddenly have several installations of engines on his home pc... you can't tell a woman something like that and assume she'll play by honest rules...
Any one heard of clothe chess? Every time he wins a piece, she takes off a... 😲
16 Mar 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasEh... She is WAY TOO MOTIVATED. At first I thought it was some sign of protest against my chess addiction but it is not. She is one of the only in our company not knowing to play and it bothers her !
Include some motivators into the game, that helps improving.
Like when she wins a game, she can tell you to do something of her whish, like bring out the trash can, or wash her underwares, or something. If you win, then she has to do something of your wishes.
Be warned thou, she might improve too fast.
I think I will buy Chessmaster if I find it in some PC games store (I have genuine copy of 10th edition and Fritz 10th but we are on the university far away from my home.)
Before that, basic endgames, basic mates in 1, overkill mates and basic tactics problems...
If she improves fast than it is a sign that I am good chess teacher with only can be a compliment. I do not mind losing 🙂