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  1. 21 Jul '12 05:17
    As a low rated struggling to improve player can anyone see flaws in my simple game logic...

    put a pawn or two in the middle
    develop my pieces
    castle
    aim as many pieces as i can at their king
    move in on their king

    what do people think

    bogg
  2. 21 Jul '12 05:39
    1,2 & 3 yes.Excellent!

    But 4 & 5 are not always possible.If set out to attack the king from move 1 you'll crash often.You're supposed to play to the demands of the position (or so I've heard 😉 ).

    However,at lower levels it'll work every time provided your tactical ability is up to the task.
  3. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    21 Jul '12 07:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by moggybogg
    As a low rated struggling to improve player can anyone see flaws in my simple game logic...

    put a pawn or two in the middle
    develop my pieces
    castle
    aim as many pieces as i can at their king
    move in on their king

    what do people think

    bogg
    This may sometimes work provided you have the white pieces and the attacking ability of Paul Morphy. However, when playing with the black pieces, the defense of the King is of primary importance and counter-attack, when the opportunity presents itself, is usually the best policy. For most of us, it is a slow process of maneuvering the pieces in hopes of gaining enough advantage to win a pawn, a piece, or the exchange that occupies our thoughts in a game of chess.
  4. Donation ketchuplover
    G.O.A.T.
    21 Jul '12 09:02
    I endorse that philosophy
  5. Standard member hedonist
    peacedog's keeper
    21 Jul '12 09:27
    I think it was Tal that said "Develop your pieces, then sac them!".
  6. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    21 Jul '12 10:00
    Originally posted by hedonist
    I think it was Tal that said "Develop your pieces, then sac them!".
    I wonder if Tal told how to "sac them!"
  7. 21 Jul '12 12:02 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by moggybogg
    As a low rated struggling to improve player can anyone see flaws in my simple game logic...

    put a pawn or two in the middle
    develop my pieces
    castle
    aim as many pieces as i can at their king
    move in on their king

    what do people think

    bogg
    its good, i wrote and posted the greatest treatise ever on the subject, openings for
    beginners, but it was too far ahead of its time and ill received by the forum because if
    its simple brilliancy! It introduced opening principles with emphasis on development and castling.
  8. 21 Jul '12 14:13 / 1 edit
    It's near perfect, I'd say a tweak here and there and we have solved Chess.

    put a pawn or two in the middle

    Yes to one, the other will depend on the reply.
    Ideally you want the other to join it's partner with a threat.

    develop my pieces

    And if you can, whilst developing hinder you opponents development.

    castle

    Always if you are going for central play. (rule 1).
    Think of Castling as a attacking move.

    aim as many pieces as i can at their king

    Always. Those that cannot be aimed at King are aimed at the King defenders,
    either by swapping them off or luring them away from the King.

    move in on their king

    Backed up with a chunk of mating ideas, patterns and sac sac tricks.
    Getting your pieces swarming all over their King and not knowing or seeing
    how to finish them off defeats all the previous play.

    Now play out Morphy at Opera and you will see all those rules in action. 🙂
  9. 21 Jul '12 15:03
    At a rating of 800 you should not be looking for fancy stuff. Improve your tactical vision and stop dropping points. If you see a good move look for a better one. Get the basics covered.

    Visit your local chess clubs and play a couple of guys and then go over the game with them.
  10. 21 Jul '12 16:35
    Whatever happened to learning how to defend in chess?
  11. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    21 Jul '12 18:18
    Originally posted by hamworld
    Whatever happened to learning how to defend in chess?
    It is more fun to attack. I did not pay much attention to defense in my early games before joining a chess club. There, I soon discovered that my attacks to mate the opponents king was one move too late. I got mated several times just before I was about to give mate, before I decided I needed too pay more attention to my defense of my own king. The people I had been playing outside the chess club were not that good, so I could attack at will against them. However, I had a rude awakening at the chess club. Those guys were nasty.
  12. 21 Jul '12 19:46
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    It is more fun to attack. I did not pay much attention to defense in my early games before joining a chess club. There, I soon discovered that my attacks to mate the opponents king was one move too late. I got mated several times just before I was about to give mate, before I decided I needed too pay more attention to my defense of my own king. The peopl ...[text shortened]... t will against them. However, I had a rude awakening at the chess club. Those guys were nasty.
    You got checkmated before you could checkmate the other guy? How does that work? I can't remember getting in a double-edged game like that. I've made some dubious sacrifices before, but never anything like that.

    Attacking lost most of its appeal to me when I found that attacks never worked well because my position wasn't good enough. I lost to an 1800 because of my lack of positional skills despite making an accurate sacrifice. His position was too good, and I lost on time in an equal endgame.

    By studying the art of positional play, I feel my attacking skills will be improved. I think this logic works. If you have a +.5 positional edge, any attack you try should work well enough.

    Man, I need more experience. I'm getting rusty and I can't keep track of my games to find a pattern.
  13. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    21 Jul '12 20:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by hamworld
    You got checkmated before you could checkmate the other guy? How does that work? I can't remember getting in a double-edged game like that. I've made some dubious sacrifices before, but never anything like that.

    Attacking lost most of its appeal to me when I found that attacks never worked well because my position wasn't good enough. I lost to an 1800 be ...[text shortened]... ed more experience. I'm getting rusty and I can't keep track of my games to find a pattern.
    I had several of those double-edged games about 40 something years ago. I can't remember all the details now, but I can remember coming out on the losing end of the deal with a mate coming up on the next move. But before that move my opponents made several checks and I ended up mated myself instead.

    P.S. I think one are two were simple ones in which I thought there was no way my opponent could stop the mate, but overlooked the simple back-rank mate he had on me.
  14. 23 Jul '12 13:05
    Originally posted by hamworld
    Whatever happened to learning how to defend in chess?
    At below 1000? It doesn't happen, and cannot happen. To attack, you need pieces. To defend, you need a position. To get a position, you must learn how to build one, and the best way to do that is experience. And how are you going to get that experience? Attack! Defending can and will come when you're ready for it.

    Richard
  15. 23 Jul '12 19:23 / 1 edit
    Are you making any progress moggybogg? Started to read some books, visited your local chess club, learning tactics etc etc?