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Originally posted by gambit05
It's a 3a: User 445874 and User 448162.

There seem to be a few more: User 446871 and User 446935
And how does one know about multiple aliases? Same credit card paying for both?

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Originally posted by ParShooter
And how does one know about multiple aliases? Same credit card paying for both?
I have no idea. Same credit card could be used within a family. Same goes for the IP address. However, look at the games of these "users" It is quite obvious.

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Originally posted by ParShooter
And how does one know about multiple aliases? Same credit card paying for both?
Same credit card is not a good indication. It has been rumored that people gave a membership as gift.

But in this case just look at the first games of the candidates...

Edit: Gambit05 beat me to it...

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Originally posted by ParShooter
And how does one know about multiple aliases? Same credit card paying for both?
Most multiple aliases are non subs. Generally I suspect just to get more free games so multiple Credit Cards would not apply.

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The gap between No. 2 and No. 3 is now over 100 points

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Originally posted by ChessAddiction
I am shocked with "sea devil" banning...."mgbal" involment in cheating was also disappinting. What if any of these two are innocent.?What about there years of hardwork in that case? Can they appeal aganst there banning?
I believe that Sea Devil's engine use was as blatant as it gets. Whilst players are certainly capable of playing at a higher standard in CC than OTB, the discrepancy in this case was simply too great to be explained in any other way.

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I like the suggestion I read yesterday in one of the deleted threads (I am sorry that I cannot recall the author). He or she suggested exile to a punishment clan called "The Leper Colony" where they could match their chess engines against each other in unrated games. 😀

Quite a bit of the Mikado about that solution.

My object all sublime
I shall achieve in time —
To let the punishment fit the crime —
The punishment fit the crime;
And make each prisoner pent
Unwillingly represent
A source of innocent merriment!
Of innocent merriment!

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Originally posted by Northern Lad
I believe that Sea Devil's engine use was as blatant as it gets. Whilst players are certainly capable of playing at a higher standard in CC than OTB, the discrepancy in this case was simply too great to be explained in any other way.
I think that the question that needs to be asked now is why was he allowed to cheat on here for nearly 5 years.

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Originally posted by Ari Brenin Cymru
I think that the question that needs to be asked now is why was he allowed to cheat on here for nearly 5 years.
Good Point!

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
Nice! That is one less cheat to skank me in the 2008 finals.
I lost to shane once too, and thought he came accross as a bit of a cheat.
If you look at Shane's profile it looked human, ups and downs. Wonder if he worked at it to disguise his engine? Anyone know what engine and CPU combo he used? Or is that a state secret?

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Originally posted by Ari Brenin Cymru
I think that the question that needs to be asked now is why was he allowed to cheat on here for nearly 5 years.
I suspect he was not cheating at first but after reaching a plateau for a number of years and not getting better sucumbed to temptation.

Sudden improvements, whether from 1300 to 1700 or from 2100 to 2400 are strongly indicitive of cheating and warrant automatic investigation in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Ari Brenin Cymru
I think that the question that needs to be asked now is why was he allowed to cheat on here for nearly 5 years.
Because he was a tough nut to crack. Only recently did he perhaps get more engine greedy in his games.

Perhaps he wasn't reported for 3 years.

Again, detecting some engine use is harder than other engine use. Just glad it was finally detected. There are no 'magic wands'.

Had you any damning info 5 years ago, I hope you sent it.

P-

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Originally posted by Fat Lady
His OTB games at the British were weird. I went over one game which proved to be nineteen or so moves of theory! But some of his blunders / bad decisions were the sort you'd expect a much weaker player to see. I think he just lost his nerve after the first few rounds and was beatable by just about anyone.
Such a big difference between OTB and CC means there may be a "dark side" to CC or the methodologies employed by some CC "specialists".

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Originally posted by Jie
Such a big difference between OTB and CC means there may be a "dark side" to CC or the methodologies employed by some CC "specialists".
Yes, that really is true.

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Is there a reason, other than cheating, that a player will get banned?

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