03 Apr 05
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Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDERDiscovered check is when you move a piece and then discover you have actually checked your opponent.
Off the top of your head, what is
a) discovered check?
b) double check?
Double check is where you get check and also grab another piece. pfft. I have done that one on this site. The Queens are the best to do that on, which, funnily enough, i did capture the prime mating piece. She was asking for it. You could just tell. Bent over, knickers around he ancles and all that carry on.
Ps. Come on lads.
03 Apr 05
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Actually, I'm pretty sure double check is when you have two pieces aimed at the king delivery check
Discovered check is like you said, except it doesn't require the emotion of surprise that you actually have put your opponent in check
Double check is I think always preceded by discovered check
03 Apr 05
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Originally posted by Mel B
Discovered check is when you move a piece and then discover you have actually checked your opponent.
Does one need to be surprised in order to call it a discovered check??
Originally posted by Mel B
Double check is where you get check and also grab another piece.
Just because I called it a newbie question does not mean it was meant for NEWBIES. 😴
03 Apr 05
Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDERDiscovered Check: Moving a piece out of the way of another so that the latter piece checks the King. e.g. Moving a Knight out of the way of a Queen.
Off the top of your head, what is
a) discovered check?
b) double check?
Double Check: Checking with two pieces simultaneously.
03 Apr 05
Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDERGood. Give a few, that was your intention from the start of this thread anyway. I pretty much agree with the definition given above. The definition I know says:"a check on the opponent's king that is delivered by moving a piece out of the line of attack by a queen or rook or bishop ".
I can think of a set of counterexamples to that definition.
03 Apr 05
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Originally posted by Mephisto2In the diagram below Black plays c5 and White takes en passant, discovering an attack from the bishop.
Good. Give a few, that was your intention from the start of this thread anyway. I pretty much agree with the definition given above. The definition I know says:"a check on the opponent's king that is delivered by moving a piece out of the line of attack by a queen or rook or bishop ".
As you can see, there is no "piece moving out of the line of attack."
It was my intention to see how many could give (off the top of their head) an accurate definition of two very common chess concepts.
So please spare me your unfounded speculation about my intentions.
03 Apr 05
Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDERNo! What's the problem here? There is nothing in my definition that claims that the player giving discovered check has to move a piece of his own colour out of the way. In this example you give, the e.p. move is just a means to move the black pawn out of the way, and that is exactly what the definition says.
In the diagram below Black plays c5 and White takes en passant, discovering an attack from the bishop.
[fen]8/2p5/1k6/1P6/8/8/8/6BK[/fen]
As you can see, there is no "piece moving out of the line of attack."
It was my intention to see how many could give (off the top of their head) an accurate definition of two very common chess concepts.
So please spare me your unfounded speculation about my intentions.
ps. what are your intentions anyway? You play no chess here.
03 Apr 05
Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDERI'm not even sure one would call this discovered check. The King's in check and at the end of the full move, the King's still in check.
In the diagram below Black plays c5 and White takes en passant, discovering an attack from the bishop.
[fen]8/2p5/1k6/1P6/8/8/8/6BK[/fen]
03 Apr 05
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Originally posted by buffalobillThen consider the diagram after c5.
I'm not even sure one would call this discovered check. The King's in check and at the end of the full move, the King's still in check.
Black is not in check.
White moves a pawn and Black is now in check from a bishop.
I call that 'discovered'.
03 Apr 05
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Originally posted by Mephisto2But your definition claims that the player giving discovered check has to move a piece of some colour out of the way.
No! What's the problem here? There is nothing in my definition that claims that the player giving discovered check has to move a piece of his own colour out of the way.
ps. what are your intentions anyway? You play no chess here.
It is true I don't play here and if you don't know the difference between pawns and pieces, perhaps you shouldn't either.
Especially for FREE!
Originally posted by Mephisto2
Another nice one: Zuckertort - Blackburne, London 1988[/i]
Nice one, indeed. But I wasn't aware of that game.
03 Apr 05
Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDERHow silly to claim that 'a piece' cannot be a pawn to get out of this. Plenty of discovered checks occur by moving a pawn (= one of the 32 chess pieces that you buy with a chessboard) of your own colour. The point is that it doesn't matter what the colour of the moved piece (pawn in this case) was.
But your definition claims that the player giving discovered check has to move a piece of some colour out of the way.
It is true I don't play here and if you don't know the difference between pawns and pieces, perhaps you shouldn't either.
Especially for FREE!
Originally posted by Mephisto2[b]
Another nice one: Zuckertort - Blackburne, London 1988[/i]
Nice one, indeed. But I wasn't aware of that game.
[/b]
ps. who is playing for FREE? I have subscribed (= not for free), and you don't play (sorry, you played one move, perhaps even a brilliant one, perhaps a candidate for the most brilliant ever?). We have seen plenty of would-be chess guru's here on the site, but who were not able to show any of their own skills. That's why I asked. Don't bother to answer. My bad.
03 Apr 05
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Originally posted by Mephisto2Why can't you enter the spirit of these threads and be a little less pedantic?
How silly to claim that 'a piece' cannot be a pawn to get out of this. Plenty of discovered checks occur by moving a pawn (= one of the 32 chess pieces that you buy with a chessboard) of your own colour. The point is that it doesn't ma ...[text shortened]... skills. That's why I asked. Don't bother to answer. My bad.
Also, it's my understanding that THUDandBLUNDER refuses to play here simply in order to avoid being labelled a "freeloader", as many of us are.
03 Apr 05
Originally posted by BowmannThe point, of course, is that he is a freeloader - he's taking up valuable server space without contributing anything (except pedantic posts) back to the community - like a good chess game, for instance.
Why can't you enter the spirit of these threads and be a little less pedantic?
Also, it's my understanding that THUDandBLUNDER refuses to play here simply in order to avoid being labelled a "freeloader", as many of us are.