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  1. 18 Feb '12 08:56
    [Event "Deutsche Bundesliga, Qh6"]
    [Site "?"]
    [Date "2000.??.??"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "Nunn, John DM"]
    [Black "Borriss, Martin"]
    [FEN "r1bq1rk1/pp3p1p/1nn1p1p1/3p2PQ/1b1NPP1P/2NBB3/PPP5/2KR3R w - - 0 0"]
    [Result "1-0"]

    From Braintwister (not following the actual game) 1. Qh6!! Re8 2. h5 1-0 but i cannot see how that is winning the King can still escape.

  2. Donation ketchuplover
    G.O.A.T.
    18 Feb '12 12:29
    2...Bf8 doesn't look too bad imo.
  3. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    18 Feb '12 13:11
    Originally posted by ketchuplover
    2...Bf8 doesn't look too bad imo.
    3.Qxh7 check! 4.h5xg6 double check.
  4. 18 Feb '12 14:03 / 1 edit
    can i try? i think the cheek mate is done with the bishop and the queenn in 4,
    sorry I don't know how to explain it with numbers and that.
  5. 18 Feb '12 21:40
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    3.Qxh7 check! 4.h5xg6 double check.
    4... Kg8 and I cannot see a forced win.
  6. 18 Feb '12 21:50
    Originally posted by tim88
    can i try? i think the cheek mate is done with the bishop and the queenn in 4,
    sorry I don't know how to explain it with numbers and that.


    If this was the position then the Queen sac wins. In the game, I cannot see a forced win.
  7. Standard member hedonist
    peacedog's keeper
    18 Feb '12 23:21
    Rh8 is mate. Unless I'm looking at the wrong position.
  8. Standard member hedonist
    peacedog's keeper
    18 Feb '12 23:27
    Just to be clear. Qxh7+ Kxh7, hxg6+ Kg8, Rh8mate.
  9. 19 Feb '12 00:12
    Originally posted by hedonist
    Just to be clear. Qxh7+ Kxh7, hxg6+ Kg8, Rh8mate.


    No because of Kxh8

  10. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    19 Feb '12 00:18 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by hedonist
    Just to be clear. Qxh7+ Kxh7, hxg6+ Kg8, Rh8mate.
    I made the mistake of not putting this on an analyze board and was thinking
    basically the same as you. However, I see now that a Rook on h8 is not
    protected. So they must have something else in mind.
  11. Standard member hedonist
    peacedog's keeper
    19 Feb '12 00:18
    Now I'm confused as the position you gave was...

    [b]


    ...when the mating attack works.
  12. Standard member hempster
    she'll be right mate
    19 Feb '12 00:31
    well i tried several variations and could not see a win but i am only a mediocre player,,then decided to run it through Houdini and the result was infact 1-0 but only after 49 moves..🙁
  13. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    19 Feb '12 00:44
    Originally posted by enrico20
    [fen]r1bqrbk1/pp3p2/1nn1p1P1/3p2P1/3NPP2/2NBB3/PPP5/2KR3R w - - 0 5[/fen]

    No because of Kxh8

    [fen]r1bqrbkR/pp3p2/1nn1p1P1/3p2P1/3NPP2/2NBB3/PPP5/2KR4 b - - 0 5[/fen]
    The bf8 move may be a saving move for black because it looks like it stops
    the mating attack. After I have set it up on an analyze board it looks like the
    only move for white is hxg6 Bxh6 4.gxf7+ Kxf7 5.Rxh6 maintaining some
    pressure on the King but with no clear win.
  14. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    19 Feb '12 01:04 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by enrico20
    [Event "Deutsche Bundesliga, Qh6"]
    [Site "?"]
    [Date "2000.??.??"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "Nunn, John DM"]
    [Black "Borriss, Martin"]
    [FEN "r1bq1rk1/pp3p1p/1nn1p1p1/3p2PQ/1b1NPP1P/2NBB3/PPP5/2KR3R w - - 0 0"]
    [Result "1-0"]

    From Braintwister (not following the actual game) 1. Qh6!! Re8 2. h5 1-0 but i cannot see how that is winning the King can still es ...[text shortened]...

    [fen]r1bq1rk1/pp3p1p/1nn1p1p1/3p2PQ/1b1NPP1P/2NBB3/PPP5/2KR3R w - - 0 0[/fen]
    I think the braintwister version might be a variation, as this is the actual game, I believe (from chessbase)

  15. Standard member hedonist
    peacedog's keeper
    19 Feb '12 01:17
    Originally posted by enrico20
    [fen]r1bqrbk1/pp3p1p/1n2p1pQ/3P2PP/3B1P2/2NB4/PPP5/2KR3R w - - 0 1[/fen]

    If this was the position then the Queen sac wins. In the game, I cannot see a forced win.
    Sorry, didn't read before I posted. You already said what I was saying.

    I'm a fool. 😞