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R

Edmonton, Alberta

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2101
12 May 06

I'm still going with 5.d4 although if white didn't play it before, why would he now?

M

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12 May 06

Originally posted by BLReid
I think I like 5. d4 better than 5. cxd, but then again, I'm not Mephisto.
My guess is as good as yours. I was in favour of cxd before and just sticking to the idea, that's all. 5.d4 is completely understandable, only I would have preferred 2.d4 in that case.

MS

Under Cover

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12 May 06

Originally posted by Mephisto2
My guess is as good as yours. I was in favour of cxd before and just sticking to the idea, that's all. 5.d4 is completely understandable, only I would have preferred 2.d4 in that case.
Understandable. And besides, we have no idea who these players are anyway, so I could guess more accurately than you simply by virtue of the possibility that the players are not as advanced as you.

RN
RHP Prophet

pursuing happiness

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12 May 06

d4 is the only good move at this point. White should have played it before.

PP

Belfast

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1809
12 May 06

5.d4! After that White needs to get in Bd3 and 0-0 pronto. Unfortunately this means he is going to get a rather passive game for a while, and Black may manage to seize the initiative due to the lack of a White Nc3.

One continuation is 5.d4 Be7 6.Bd3 dxc4! 7.Bxc4 0-0 8.0-0 Nd5! and if White plays Nc3 Black can capture and give White the "isolated pair" and blockade c4. White's queenside light squares will consequently be potentially weak. That is the way I'd play it as Black anyway.

M

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12 May 06

Originally posted by Positional Player
5.d4! After that White needs to get in Bd3 and 0-0 pronto. Unfortunately this means he is going to get a rather passive game for a while, and Black may manage to seize the initiative due to the lack of a White Nc3.

One continuation is 5.d4 Be7 6.Bd3 dxc4! 7.Bxc4 0-0 8.0-0 Nd5! and if White plays Nc3 Black can capture and give White the "isolat ...[text shortened]... squares will consequently be potentially weak. That is the way I'd play it as Black anyway.
Did you consider 5.d4 Bb4+
Black is ready to castle and has the better game.

PP

Belfast

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12 May 06

Originally posted by Mephisto2
Did you consider 5.d4 Bb4+
Black is ready to castle and has the better game.
Ah! You're right, I missed that move. Gains time time on kingside development in that White must block with a queenside piece, and that Black will gain a good rook on the K-file.

After 5.d4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 (I'm not sure about this) ...0-0 7.Bd3 Re8+ Be3 Nf4 Black has = at least.

j

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13 May 06

Originally posted by RahimK
Be very careful with games on chesslab.com.

They could be played by anyone and who knows maybe the players are worse then you?

Most databases have a minimum rating.
Only master and above game, Only expert and above games etc..
yeah, you are right, but most databases include games of any quality ...

R

Edmonton, Alberta

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13 May 06

Originally posted by jcoblitas68
yeah, you are right, but most databases include games of any quality ...
I only know of chesslab.com which does that.

Shredder db - no
chessbase db - no
chessgames.com db - no
Fritz db - no

Those are the 5 I know about and I use those last 4. Chesslab.com I don't use because I don't want to follow a game which was played by someone lower rated then me, and they don't have the players ratings all the time and you can never be sure how strong those players were.

F

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13 May 06


1. c4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Qb3

M

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13 May 06

I am not impressed by this 'development' move.

5. ... Nc6 develops a piece, and keeps the Bb4+ (if 6.d4) in the game.
Black could also play Qe7+ followed by Bg4, but I like Nc6 better.

R

Edmonton, Alberta

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13 May 06

Is this game played by players under 2000 or what?

The moves are so odd.

Surely you can tell us that much. That's not disclosing the game really.

Highlander

Planet Earth

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14 May 06

Originally posted by RahimK
Is this game played by players under 2000 or what?

The moves are so odd.

Surely you can tell us that much. That's not disclosing the game really.
Apparently one is 1158 and the other 1219 🙁

R

Edmonton, Alberta

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14 May 06

Originally posted by Mctayto
Apparently one is 1158 and the other 1219 🙁
I'm think something very similar. If that is the case then why am I wasting my time guessing moves? That's like taking advice from a lower rated player really. Like following a db game played by someone lower rated then you.

Well I'll see what you guys guess and how the game goes, but i'm not guessing anymore.

The moves are bad and I don't agree with them.

F

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14 May 06


1. c4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Qb3 Nc6