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Opening books & DBS = immoral play?

Opening books & DBS = immoral play?

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Originally posted by Kepler
Yes, it is fairly straightforward but we have had one or two alleged cheats who argued that they did not know the engine was turned on! If something with an engine in it is not used at all then there is no room for that kind of "error". The trouble with engine interfaces is that they often fire up the engine as a default, you have to remember to turn it off. With many proper database programs any engine is off by default.
The Fritz 10 DB is markedly inferior to many on the net. I never use it.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
The Fritz 10 DB is markedly inferior to many on the net. I never use it.
True and Fritz is hardly a database program. It is an engine wrapped in a GUI which can access databases but is not designed for that purpose. I use a database assembled from many sources accessed via software intended for that purpose.

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The thing people really need to understand is that OTB Chess (over the board) and correspondence chess are two different games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correspondence_chess sums up correspondence chess nicely. Please read this and the ToS in order to understand what **everyone** on this site has agreed to already.

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Originally posted by onebyone


Any thoughts?
Moron

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
Moron
Oh now that's just cold.

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I believe that using the books to get help is fine, though I do not use any. But one should not make it as a habit. If it improves one's game then absolutely ok.

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Originally posted by onebyone
Appolgies if this has been discussed before but I've seen people here say that they use opening books and databases during their games.

Is this moral and 'legal'? I would have thought that this would be seen as cheating seeing as the player is getting help whilst the game is active.

Any thoughts?
It is my understanding that the format of correspondence chess does allow one to use books and/or databases as a guide. What is NOT allowed however (please correct me if I'm wrong) is 1. Using a computer program to suggest a move for you, and 2. Using another player to suggest a move for you. 😏

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
Moron
:'(

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Originally posted by bill718
It is my understanding that the format of correspondence chess does allow one to use books and/or databases as a guide. What is NOT allowed however (please correct me if I'm wrong) is 1. Using a computer program to suggest a move for you, and 2. Using another player to suggest a move for you. 😏
Depends on the rules one is abiding by. ICCF does not ban engine use, neither does IECG. As far as I am aware the rules of those two organisations don't even mention engines.

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I've got little to no idea of chess basics, and I feel that if I dont use some kind of source I'm never going to learn. For that reason I will usually refer to some kind of source for the first 4 or 5 moves. I think refering to sources beyond these initial moves is, while not cheating, not really in the spirit of the game.

For those initial moves, especially for someone wanting to learn the game, I think it's ok yeah?