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  1. 16 Aug '11 11:04
    Can anyone recommenda good book on openings for a beginner? Alternatively any particular player or teacher of chess?
  2. 16 Aug '11 11:22 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by barney23
    Can anyone recommenda good book on openings for a beginner? Alternatively any particular player or teacher of chess?
    I suggest 1.e4 openings for beginners when playing white. And take into account black's replies 1 . . . e5 or c5 or e6. I know that is not very specific. I guess I am just thinking to narrow your consideration as white to 1.e4.

    Nick de Firmian, author of the MCO, gives the following "tips for the novice."

    As white, consider the Evans Gambit for 1.e4 e5 opening, while also with 1.e4 e5 being prepared for the Two Kinghts' Defense and Philidor's Defense, having a different third move for black.

    "As Black, choose a defense to both 1 e4 and 1 d4. The Center Counter Defense (1 e3 d3) and the Tarrasch Defense (1 d4 d5 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 c5) are simple openings to play and learn, and the Tarracch can also be played against 1 c4 (1 c4 e6 2 Nc3 d6 3 d4 c5 is the same)."
  3. 16 Aug '11 12:06
    I think Paul van der Sterren's "Fundamental Chess Openings" is good book for beginner - wide material coverage and basic explanation of plans for both White and Black.
    Also, IMO, for beginner, modern opening theory has less value than basic principles (including opening principles). For this, I highly recommend Irving Chernev's "Logical chess move by move".
  4. Standard member nimzo5
    Ronin
    16 Aug '11 13:16
    Originally posted by Morrandir
    I think Paul van der Sterren's "Fundamental Chess Openings" is good book for beginner - wide material coverage and basic explanation of plans for both White and Black.
    Also, IMO, for beginner, modern opening theory has less value than basic principles (including opening principles). For this, I highly recommend Irving Chernev's "Logical chess move by move".
    Maybe a copy Fine's "The ideas behind the Chess Openings" might be apropriate?
  5. 16 Aug '11 13:57
    Originally posted by barney23
    Can anyone recommenda good book on openings for a beginner? Alternatively any particular player or teacher of chess?
    Opening books: none.Not what you want to hear,I know,but it's the best advice I can give.

    Teachers: hire greenpawn,I hear he charges 2 pints an hour.Never take longer than a 2 hour session though!

    You're 64 and UK based so I reckon you know descriptive.Get Lasker's or Tarrasch' manual.They're cheap and will teach you some good chess.
    Then get Chernev's logical chess or Nunn's which is newer.

    That should add a good deal to your playing strength.
  6. 16 Aug '11 16:53
    Originally posted by nimzo5
    Maybe a copy Fine's "The ideas behind the Chess Openings" might be apropriate?
    Hi, Nimzo.
    Maybe, I didn't check Fine's book. I guess anything that explains JUST basic plans and doesn't delve into complicated variations of modern theory is appropriate for OP.
  7. 16 Aug '11 17:04
    Hi,
    I am using this one:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Winning-Chess-Openings/dp/1857443497/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313514112&sr=1-2

    I cannot really compare it to any other books because that is the only openings book I have read, but it is simple, easy to read and explains basic openings quite well (King's, Queen's, Reti etc). He has also written various other books of the same nature (Endings etc).
  8. Subscriber Ragwort
    Ex Duris Gloria
    16 Aug '11 18:19
    Originally posted by barney23
    Can anyone recommenda good book on openings for a beginner? Alternatively any particular player or teacher of chess?
    If you have not yet discovered this website have a look here.

    Lots of straightforward coaching advice and articles on openings.

    "The French Defence in 10 minutes" is a particularly useful summary aimed at relative beginners to the game and there are plenty of other articles here too on various chess subjects. Have a read before you start spending money on books.

    http://exeterchessclub.org.uk/taxonomy/term/9
  9. 16 Aug '11 19:27
    Hi Barney, just looked at the last game you lost. Game 8576856

    Never mind the opening books. Waste of money at your level.
    Waste of money at my level. A waste of money, memory and time.

    You won't much get theory on 1.e4 e5 2.Qf3 which cost you as Black
    a piece after 9 moves. (except in KoKo The Clowns Opening Book.)



    2.Qf3 is a clown's move. 2.Qh5 at least has some point though it too is duff.

    The clowning days are over.

    The new you from on will get the pieces off the back rank ASAP.
    If your opponent is not doing the same then you attack him with gay abandon.

    Get the Opening Principles about development and control of the centre
    off to pat till it becomes 2nd nature.

    at 65 You most likely have a chess book or two knocking about the house.
    It will explain the principles.

    This covers them.

    http://www.onlinechesslessons.net/2011/03/23/6-common-chess-mistakes-beginners-make-in-the-openings/

    And a couple of vids.

    YouTube

    YouTube

    OK let us see how your game should have/could gone.
    You were Black.



    Now Barney get out there and stop messing about with your h-pawns.
    Develop your bits, get castled, throw your centre pawns at him and whack him.

    That I believe is two pints you owe me.
  10. 16 Aug '11 22:50
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi Barney, just looked at the last game you lost. Game 8576856

    Never mind the opening books. Waste of money at your level.
    Waste of money at my level. A waste of money, memory and time.

    You won't much get theory on 1.e4 e5 2.Qf3 which cost you as Black
    a piece after 9 moves. (except in KoKo The Clowns Opening Book.)

    [fen]rnbqkbnr/pppp1p ...[text shortened]... r centre pawns at him and whack him.

    That I believe is two pints you owe me.
    Agree. Good post. Learn principles.
  11. 17 Aug '11 07:21
    Thank you, 2 pints to you.
  12. 17 Aug '11 07:29
    This site looks promising. Thank you.
  13. 17 Aug '11 07:52
    Thank you. I will look at this
  14. 17 Aug '11 07:54
    Thank you, looking at Amazon.
  15. 17 Aug '11 08:01
    Thank you. I will look at this.