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  1. 27 Jun '07 05:16
    [Event "Summer Gran Prix"]
    [Site "Public Library"]
    [Date "2007.06.26"]
    [Round "1"]
    [White "endgamer [1399]"]
    [Black "him [1808]"]
    [Result "0-1"]

    1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d6 3. c4 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 0-0 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Be2 e5 8. d5 Ne7 9. Qd2 c6 10. 0-0 c5 11. Bh6 Ne8 12. a3 f5 13. b4 Nf6 14. Bxg7 Kxg7 15. exf5 Bxf5 16. Nh4 b6 17. Nxf5 18. Bd3 Nd4 19. Bc2 Qc7 20. Ne2 Arc8 21. b5 Rf8 22. a4 Rf7 22. a4 cRf8 23. Nxd4 cxd4 24. Qe2 Nd7 25. Bd3 25. Nc5
    from here the game slowly continued down hill. So I ask, where exactly did I start to lose? He said Bxg7 was bad, along with exchanging off my knight on f5 and it makes sense, I had a dark square weakness for quiet awhile. He also said that it probably would have been better for me to castle queen side, but I had never seen that before. Regardless, what should I have done?
    Thanks
    endgamer.
  2. 27 Jun '07 06:27
    I think the position is even.

    You missed a strong move at 8.

    8. dxe5

    opens the d-file, queens are exchanged, and the rook that recaptures the queen at d will be pinned.
  3. 27 Jun '07 06:56 / 5 edits
    Originally posted by endgamer
    [Event "Summer Gran Prix"]

    [text shortened] 21. b5 Rf8 22. a4 Rf7 22. a4 cRf8 23. Nxd4 cxd4 24. Qe2 Nd7 25. Bd3 25. Nc5

    from here the game slowly continued down hill. So I ask, where exactly did I start to lose? He said Bxg7 was bad, along with exchanging off my knight on f5 and it makes sense, I had a dark square weakness for quiet awhile. de, but I had never seen that before. Regardless, what should I have done?
    Thanks
    endgamer.
    I checked your position with Fritz and had it play a game with itself with your games position at move 19. And everytime i played it (twice) white(you) defeated black easily. So in my opinion after seeing this. You actually had the better position. At move 19 at least. Unless Fritz is wrong.

    -- Paul

    p.s. I didn't allow it much time to calulate, though. (I pressed the "force engine to move now" button alot) Not sure how the game would have turned out if i let it take it's time but that would be very time consuming.
  4. 27 Jun '07 19:26
    Originally posted by violinpatrick
    I think the position is even.

    You missed a strong move at 8.

    8. dxe5

    opens the d-file, queens are exchanged, and the rook that recaptures the queen at d will be pinned.
    yeah, that looks interesting, I would be a pawn up after 8....dxe5 9 Qxd8 Rxd8 10 Nd5 Rd6 11. Bxf6 Bxf6 12. Nxc7. if 8...Nxe5 then 9. Nxe5 10. dxe5 dxe5 11. Qxd8 Rxd8 12. Nd5 Rd6 13. Bxf6 Bxf6 and now im up a pawn and have exchanged off two knights, that should be even better for me (the more big pieces on the board, the more "pawn up" isnt that helpful.)
  5. 27 Jun '07 19:27
    Originally posted by Pavlo87
    I checked your position with Fritz and had it play a game with itself with your games position at move 19. And everytime i played it (twice) white(you) defeated black easily. So in my opinion after seeing this. You actually had the better position. At move 19 at least. Unless Fritz is wrong.

    -- Paul

    p.s. I didn't allow it much time to calulate, though. ...[text shortened]... game would have turned out if i let it take it's time but that would be very time consuming.
    fritz won easily you say, well what did it play from move 19 to keep the advantage?