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so tommorow im going a long drive to play some uscf otb..
ive only played one game before (lost to a strong player) so im psyched to get to play 3-4 games..(30 minutes) still not knowing what to go with opening wise yet..

heres what ive got so far..

white- 1.f4 , with the thoughts of staying with a birds game and not getting into any transpositions.. if i see the froms gambit im accepting.. some people go to a KG instead..

black- 1.e4 - caro! a lot of what happens next is up to them but id do the lines that i do all the time i guess...

so those are the for sures, and the next part is where im not sure yet..
against 1.d4 id say either a QID/NID or a benoni..

i have no clue what to do for an english.. any advice? 🙂

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Originally posted by irontigran
so tommorow im going a long drive to play some uscf otb..
ive only played one game before (lost to a strong player) so im psyched to get to play 3-4 games..(30 minutes) still not knowing what to go with opening wise yet..

heres what ive got so far..

white- [b]1.f4
, with the thoughts of staying with a birds game and not getting into any transp ...[text shortened]... say either a QID/NID or a benoni..

i have no clue what to do for an english.. any advice? 🙂[/b]
Play more or less the same setup as against d4. That's what I usually do. Of course, take time to move, don't follow blindly those setups.

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Originally posted by kbaumen
Play more or less the same setup as against d4. That's what I usually do. Of course, take time to move, don't follow blindly those setups.
this is what i usually do i just dont want to be blindsided by any tricks.. i might just go 1..Nf6 then..

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If you are a Caro-Kann player, then the Slav is a natural choice against 1 d4. I play these all the time (not all that well, but I play them).

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Originally posted by irontigran
this is what i usually do i just dont want to be blindsided by any tricks.. i might just go 1..Nf6 then..
Hi, I pause to offer any suggestions as you are a higher rated player than myself, however on the 1.f4 opening have you considered looking at the games of GM Henrik Danielsen who has pioneered a universal system termed 'the polar bear' using this opening (1.f4) which evolved from a kind of Dutch with reversed colours, so if you are used to playing 1.f4 why not consider the Dutch as black, its a good opening to play for a win, hopefully this is in some way helpful, here is the Grandmasters site http://www.videochess.net/

i wish you every success, regards Robert.

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Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
If you are a Caro-Kann player, then the Slav is a natural choice against 1 d4. I play these all the time (not all that well, but I play them).
ive thought of trying this but never have.. i dont think i could learn enough by this time tomorrow though..

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Hi, I pause to offer any suggestions as you are a higher rated player than myself, however on the 1.f4 opening have you considered looking at the games of GM Henrik Danielsen who has pioneered a universal system termed 'the polar bear' using this opening (1.f4) which evolved from a kind of Dutch with reversed colours, so if you are used to playing 1. ...[text shortened]... the Grandmasters site http://www.videochess.net/

i wish you every success, regards Robert.
thanks robert, im going to look at a few from the site now 🙂

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Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
If you are a Caro-Kann player, then the Slav is a natural choice against 1 d4. I play these all the time (not all that well, but I play them).
its not really any new theory. as a fellow caro-kann/slav/semi-slav player... i would advise that learning the slav doesn't take to much after already having started learning the caro-kann.

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Originally posted by Adorea
...as a fellow caro-kann/slav/semi-slav player... i would advise that learning the slav doesn't take to much after already having started learning the caro-kann.
...Just plent of caffeine
😛

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Eh, I don't think the Caro-Kann and the Slav are that similar. I play the Caro-Kann on a regular basis, but I can't stand the regular Slav, and the semi-slav has some lines that are a bit too sharp for a Caro-Kann player.

If you like to play solid and relatively passive as black, the QGD seems like a natural choice.

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Originally posted by Heroic Metool
Eh, I don't think the Caro-Kann and the Slav are that similar. I play the Caro-Kann on a regular basis, but I can't stand the regular Slav, and the semi-slav has some lines that are a bit too sharp for a Caro-Kann player.

If you like to play solid and relatively passive as black, the QGD seems like a natural choice.
semi-slav is a QGD defense.... and Caro-Kann exchange can often be sharp, if he's familiar with the Caro-Kann I'm sure he's tactically proficient as well.

Most slavic lines aren't tactical anyway. Their is really deep theory on the slav if you want to look for it, but honestly its not that difficult to understand as long as your not playing the Anti-Meran which itself is a hot potato.

I can get you several thousand Slav/semi-slav games for most any sound variation. If you want to run through some of the top games of each variation real quick.

-Adorea

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Originally posted by irontigran
so tommorow im going a long drive to play some uscf otb..
ive only played one game before (lost to a strong player) so im psyched to get to play 3-4 games..(30 minutes) still not knowing what to go with opening wise yet..

heres what ive got so far..

white- [b]1.f4
, with the thoughts of staying with a birds game and not getting into any transp ...[text shortened]... say either a QID/NID or a benoni..

i have no clue what to do for an english.. any advice? 🙂[/b]
as for the english... you can play the Symmetrical English game. Bodes well for both sides, and isn't exactly "familiar" territory for most english players. (also has easy-2-learn theory)

EDIT:

ECO: A30 - A35
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessopening?eco=a30
The link above has some information on the opening according to the chessgames.com db

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Originally posted by Adorea
semi-slav is a QGD defense.... and Caro-Kann exchange can often be sharp, if he's familiar with the Caro-Kann I'm sure he's tactically proficient as well.

Most slavic lines aren't tactical anyway. Their is really deep theory on the slav if you want to look for it, but honestly its not that difficult to understand as long as your not playing the Anti-Meran ...[text shortened]... . If you want to run through some of the top games of each variation real quick.

-Adorea
Agreed. Caro-Kann can turn tactical very quickly despite it's reputation.

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Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
Agreed. Caro-Kann can turn tactical very quickly despite it's reputation.
yeah, thats for sure.. i actually dont have many that stay strategical, it has to be the main line..

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go to www.chesslive.de and put in the starting moves for the Slav or semi slav. Search the database, and limit your search to the White side haveing a rating of at least 2300. The select the games where Black won or drew, and click replay. Just watch, and get a feel for the opening. With a little bit of thought, that should put you ok for most OTB players at our level. Have fun 🙂

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