PAWN RIOT VS The Forum Move 12

Originally posted by Squelchbelch
What about 14...Qa5 instead?
A few strong players have played this line including Palkovi and Aagaard, with 15.g4 Rxc3 16.Bxg7 Kxg7 17.bxc3 Rc8 to follow:

[fen]2r5/pp1bppk1/3p1np1/q3n2p/3NP1PP/1BP2P2/P1PQ4/1K1R3R w - - 0 1[/fen]

We could have done that two moves ago 12...Qa5 13. Bb3 Rfc8 14. Kb1 and we would have also accomplished the idea behind 14... Re8 (I think. The point is to stop a B trade, right?)

Actually, if we move 12...Nc4, surely we are in a parlous position after 13. Bxc4 Rxc4 14.g4 b5 15. b3 b4 16. bxc4 bxc3 17. Qxc3 Qc7 18. h4 h5 19. g5 (or 19. gxh5 Nxh5)? amongst other lines, such as

18. g5 Nh5 19. Kc1...

We are the exchange down,... etc

Originally posted by ptobler
Actually, if we move 12...Nc4, surely we are in a parlous position after 13. Bxc4 Rxc4 14.g4 b5 15. b3 b4 16. bxc4 bxc3 17. Qxc3 Qc7 18. h4 h5 19. g5 (or 19. gxh5 Nxh5)? amongst other lines, such as

18. g5 Nh5 19. Kc1...

We are the exchange down,... etc

I disagree with 18...h5. White has almost zero chances for a kingside attack here, since his own king is such a mess, so why bother stopping the h-pawn!? I would almost call 18. h4 a mistake on the grounds that it's the start of a completely faulty plan. Better in my opinion is 18. h4 Rc8! 19. h5 (continuing with your idea) Be8!, intending to reroute the knight to d7 and the Bishop to f7 if White plays hxg6. It's not so easy for White, Black has great play. 😀

right, enough of you woosies, are we going to play the dragon or skip around making daisy chains, it seems, all things having been considered that ...Nc4 is the best of a bad bunch, i hope for the sake of the Loch Ness monster, the last living dragon in history, with the exception of black beetle who comes a close second, that we are not wrong

...Nc4

Nc4 please

How 'bout some novelty ?

I'm still not sure why no one wants to venture the best move ...a6. It's where theory is at as of right now.

Originally posted by EmLasker
let's just resign and get over with this

🙂

I will tally up tomorrow. Does that sound ok or do we need more time ?

Originally posted by ResigningSoon
I'm still not sure why no one wants to venture the best move ...a6. It's where theory is at as of right now.

I voted a6. Nice to know that although the move will lose, it is the best move!

There were already 6 votes within 2 hours of the thread. I didn't get a good chance to look at the position. I felt I had to cast a vote before the issue was already decided. I think we are going about this all wrong.

But we're still in theory at the moment... once we get out of it a bit more everyone considering the position will be more important

Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
There were already 6 votes within 2 hours of the thread. I didn't get a good chance to look at the position. I felt I had to cast a vote before the issue was already decided. I think we are going about this all wrong.

that's democracy for you!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
that's democracy for you!

I am beginning to see that. In the U.S. election, every candidate I voted for lost !!! The funny thing is that I voted for Republicans AND Democrats. 🙂 I must be a jinx.

Final Totals

Re8 4 votes
Nc4 12 votes
a6 4 votes


Very small turnout. Everyone prepare for 13.Bxc4 ... Put down the books, set up a board, and try to figure this out. I know I am going to.