PAWN RIOT VS The Forum Move 22

I vote for 22...Be6 for the time being

Originally posted by ptobler
Without thinking too hard or long I have come up with

22...Be6 23. Rhb1 Bxc4 24. Rb7 Qc5

with his pinned knight helping us out.

Can anyone see any improvement?

continuing the line...

22...Be6 23 Rhb1 Bxc4 24 Rb7 Qc5 25 Rd7 Ba6 26 Qxc5 dxc5 and he is in huge trouble with his pinned knight attacked both by our pawn and bishop

Originally posted by ptobler
continuing the line...

22...Be6 23 Rhb1 Bxc4 24 Rb7 Qc5 25 Rd7 Ba6 26 Qxc5 dxc5 and he is in huge trouble with his pinned knight attacked both by our pawn and bishop

continuing...

27 Rxa7 cxd4 28 Rxa6 dxe3+ 29 Rb2 Bxb2+ 30 Kxb2

If 23 c5 (after 22...Be6) obviously 23...dxc5

(I know I am listing a lot of obvious variations but anyway it's a starting point)

Originally posted by ptobler
continuing...

27 Rxa7 cxd4 28 Rxa6 dxe3+ 29 Rb2 Bxb2+ 30 Kxb2

After 25.Rd7 he is loosing because of 25...Be6. He will play 25.Rxe7 instead.

a more likely line is 25.Rxe7...d5
26.Rd7...dxe4
27.fxe4...Qc6
28.Rxa7..Qxe4

Originally posted by clandarkfire
After 25.Rd7 he is loosing because of 25...Be6. He will play 25.Rxe7 instead.

Yep, we're still looking better after

22...Be6 23 Rhb1 Bxc4 24 Rb7 Qc5 25 Rxe7 Ba6 26 Qxc5 dxc5

Originally posted by ptobler
Yep, we're still looking better after

22...Be6 23 Rhb1 Bxc4 24 Rb7 Qc5 25 Rxe7 Ba6 26 Qxc5 dxc5

not 25...Ba6. we play 25...d5.

Originally posted by clandarkfire
a more likely line is 25.Rxe7...d5
26.Rd7...dxe4
27.fxe4...Qc6
28.Rxa7..Qxe4

27...Qe5 would seem to be an improvement here? Followed by 28 Nb5 Qxe4 29 Qxg7+ then we recapture with king or knight?

I think Qc6 is better. he wont play 28Nb5, which is loosing.

Originally posted by clandarkfire
I think Qc6 is better. he wont play 28Nb5, which is loosing.

But what can he play that is any good?

Originally posted by ptobler
But what can he play that is any good?

28 Rb4

then 28...Be6 29 Rxa7 Qxe4

too good for him - I see your point

any thoughts on 22...a5?

I may have overlooked some comments on this.

22. ... d5 23.exd5 Nd6 24.c5 Nf5 25.c6 Be8 26.Rb7 Qe5

I bet white is won somewhere in there or here.

How about 22. ... Be6 23.Nxe6 Bxc3 24.Nxc7 Rxc7 25.Kb1 Bxb2 26.Kxb2

How does black stand in this ending?